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Gumelnița–Kodžadermen-Karanovo VI complex

I don't know what you did but it seems to have messed something up. Now if you click on 'Gumelnița–Kodžadermen-Karanovo VI complex' in google (or other search engine) it takes you to a redirect page, whereas previously it went straight to the actual page. Ario1234 (talk) 14:55, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

I haven't. That's going to get updated by itself quickly. I moved the page because Romanian uses a set of diacritics different from the ones you moved the article to earlier. This is a very recurrent issue in Wikipedia. Super Ψ Dro 15:35, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. Ario1234 (talk) 19:54, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

January 2023

Edit for Ukraine invasion template has 3-4 editors in agreement for adding. You appear to be reverting an edit made by 3-4 editors in agreement. See Talk page at 2022 invasion of Ukraine. ErnestKrause (talk) 23:55, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

ErnestKrause, can you tell me the section where they agreed to that change? Super Ψ Dro 23:58, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

I've just responded to your edit on the Talk page there. I'm supporting the statements by Michael and Slatersteven on that Talk page. ErnestKrause (talk) 00:01, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

What comments? Super Ψ Dro 00:04, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

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Transylvanianism

I see you identify yourself like Romanian nationalist, but this is encyclopedia and nobody cares about your personal opinion, but sources. Transylvanianism is for sure part of “Movements of regionalism, separatism and stateless nationalism in Europe”. And for the future don’t revert, take part in discussion Joaziela (talk) 14:25, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

I don't see why would you bring up my ideologies and I sure do not care about what you have to say about them. If you had actually taken a minute to research on the topic you'd have seen that the topic has nothing to do with political regionalism and that this issue has been already discussed in Wikipedia. If you want the sources I brought up, go search for them. I don't have any reason to spend a single second with this ever again. I will also notice the last user who tried pushing this unsourced narrative got blocked. If you revert me again, I will make sure the administrators take notice of you. Super Ψ Dro 14:31, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Socola hospital fire

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Precious anniversary

Precious

Three years!

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Frasherots

You should know the distinction between frasherots and moscopoles(these too in epirus). Epirus is an area that encompasses both Albania and Greece. While Frasherots are only on Përmet District. Not to be confused with other aromanians. RoyalHeritageAlb (talk) 14:11, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

RoyalHeritageAlb, per this article (read page 5), Farsherots also live in Divjaka and Elbasan, which are not in Epirus and not in Përmet District. Super Ψ Dro 18:14, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Well that depends the viewpoint how we see the borders of historical epirus. But i saw that you added mostly so its okay from me i guess. I think that divjaka aromanians are myzeqar aromanians tho — Preceding unsigned comment added by RoyalHeritageAlb (talk • contribs) 21:59, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

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Category:History of foreign relations of Romania has been nominated for merging

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Cemal Kütahya

Hi there I've made a start on Cemal Kütahya. Moondragon21 (talk) 23:04, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

Moondragon21 great! Thank you. Super Ψ Dro 13:03, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

Reversion on Russian military presence in Transnistria

Hi, I saw that you reverted my sources on this article. Is Financial Times and the Carnegie Foundation examples of Russian propaganda? These are legitimate news sources stating legitimate facts as far as I can tell. Kyiv has publicly claimed that it can take over Transnistria if it wants to - do you have a source from a different news publication that contradicts this? Knightoften (talk) 21:20, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

Knightoften, the reason of my revert was that the prose made it seem like Ukraine was threatening Transnistria or something. You combined a September 2022 source (and btw I can't find the "civilians in Transnistria see provocations coming from Ukraine" part) with one from February 2023 from this recent wave of discussion of Ukraine supposedly planning something in Transnistria. And such claims originate from Russian propaganda. You're welcome to add information, but following a complete and neutral approach. Super Ψ Dro 21:30, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

Super Dromaeosaurus, There are two articles for the two parts of the added sentence. You can find the quote here; it's in the Financial Times article - "Concerns are rising that the region might be dragged into the war in neighbouring Ukraine...inside Transnistria some believe Kyiv is to blame. "Unfortunately, there are provocations coming from the Ukrainian side,” said a 35-year-old female resident of Bender, a few miles west of Tiraspol, too worried about the situation to give her name. “We are peaceful people, we don’t want to see 1992 happening again,” she added, referring to fighting in Bender three decades ago, when the Soviet Union was breaking apart and loyalists to Moscow faced off against Moldovan nationalists wanting more autonomy."

As I can tell this is a legitimate interview and article from last year (May 2022), and completely neutral.

The second source (Carnegie Endowment) states: "Moscow runs the risk of losing its outpost on the Dniester River altogether...Taking Transnistria would be a clear win for Kyiv. For a start, it could restock its arsenal with weapons from Cobasna. In addition, it would be a resounding victory over Russia. Losing its outpost on the Dniester River would be far more shocking and painful for Moscow than its recent retreat from the Kharkiv region."

These are quotes from the articles, I'm not changing or modifying them in any way. If the information is from Wikipedia:Reliable source, then we're free to use it. Knightoften (talk) 21:47, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

I see. I am not opposed to a reinstation of this information but the prose should be changed, and ideally extra sources explaining the topic more in depth should be added too. Super Ψ Dro 21:55, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

International Legion of Territorial Defence of Ukraine

Come to Talk:International Legion of Territorial Defense of Ukraine to clarify the problem Uwdwadafsainainawinfi (talk) 11:57, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

Samarina

Hi. I like very much your article about the "Samarina republic". I have added an excerpt from my weblog related to this aromanian tentative of independence. If interested, please read https://researchomnia.blogpot.com/2023/01/the-aromanians-of-greece.html (You have to add the "s" to the word "blogpot" in order to read it, because of the block from wikipedia against the blogs). I am an italian who writes and researches info about all the neolatin communities in the Balkans. Sincerely. BD 73.125.22.23 (talk) 21:55, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

Hello. Thank you a lot for your interest, I am always happy to know there are more people interested in the field of the Aromanians. I'd like to incite you to create an account to edit Wikipedia more often, I highly appreciate help in this field.

I'd like to state however that Wikipedia has stricter policies and requirements than blogs, and the direct copy-and-paste of information, such as in the form of quotes, is not desired. I've adapted the quote you added to direct information, and kept only the one talking about the 1918 Republic of the Pindus (since you added it in the part talking about it). Websites are also less preferred than books and academic journals. I've kept the source because vlahoi.net is a popular Greek-speaking resource for the Aromanians, if not the most, but in articles ranked as high quality in Wikipedia they would ideally not be cited. These websites anyway take this info from more scholarly sources, that would need to be done is to find those sources and cite them directly.

Editing Wikipedia is hard and has many rules, hopefully my changes do not annoy you. I again thank you for your help and interest in this area!

As for your blog, I read that article and the info is pretty accurate, I congratulate you. I notice some excerpts cited from Thede Kahl, a high-authority author in this matter. Still I as a reader would have valued that you included the websites and articles you got this information from. This is only some suggestion from my part. Super Ψ Dro 23:35, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for your answer. I don't know if it is right to add additional sentences, like those from G. Motta. Please -if interested in the full version- read of G. Motta "THE FIGHT FOR BALKAN LATINITY. THE AROMANIANS UNTIL WORLD WAR I. în „MEDITERRANEAN JOURNAL OF SOCIAL SCIENCES,” VOL. 2(3), SEPTEMBER, 2011, ROME" ([1]). Motta wrote that " Italy was the natural benchmark of the Vlahs and her prestige deriving from the victory of the war increased her power and attraction towards the Vlahs, who kept on invoking Italian protection for the safeguard of their Latin culture. At Delvino, on 28th December 1918 and 10th January 1919, a special Assembly was convoked. The meeting defined a precise political project: the autonomy of Pindus and Zagori united with Albania and under the protection of Italy and pointed out a strategy to avoid any other undesired solution.....The end of the war and the postwar diplomacy could not condition the life of Balkan Aromanians, nor Italy could. The Vlah question, anyway, was managed both by Romanian and Italian diplomacy to consolidate their positions and their interests in the Balkan regions. Vlahs were reminded in all the documents presented by Romania to the peace talks and became the subject of a special policy of colonization started by Bucharest in the Twenties. Italian intervention, on the contrary, arrived once again during the second war, when a short-lived Aromanian State was created in Pindus region. After many centuries of isolation, only war could rejoin the Aromenians to the homeland of latinity." You decide about....and I salute you with my best greetings. BD — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.125.22.23 (talk) 16:32, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

Much of this info is already present or would not belong to the 1917 republic article but to other contexts. Note that to add information all you'd need to do is to paraphrase the information included in the journals so that it is not an exact copy. It is also necessary to integrate the info into the part of the article it belongs to. Super Ψ Dro 17:27, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

Arvanitovlachoi Page lets create!

Hello Mr/Mrs/Ms @Super Dromaeosaurus!

I see that you thanked me for my edit in Vlachogianni and I thank you also for adding the word Farsherot Aromanians (arvanitovlachoi)!

Why don't we create a page/s for Farsherot Aromanians or Megleno Aromanians etc.?

I would like to denote the Aromanian Settlements in Greece and also would like to add Ottoman State & Military Archival information to these articles. I remember once that you added the name of Elassona in Aromanian. An admin has deleted it sadly. It looks as to me that some admins are collaboratively preventing the information about Aromanians in Greece.

Kind regards,

Utku Utku Öziz (talk) 09:22, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Hello. Academic information on the Aromanians is limited. I am not sure there is enough information and studies to cite to write a different page for every Aromanian subgroup. Though there surely is enough information for making an article about the Aromanian subgroups in general and it is one of my projects in mind that I will do in the future. So, one day they will have their own subsection in an article dedicated to them and other Aromanian subgroups. Super Ψ Dro 14:09, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Deleted vote Moldovan Language

Hello! You have deleted my vote on the talk page of Moldova with the comment "are you kidding". Why ? I would like some explanations, and if I did anything wrong I would like to know how to fix it.

Georgios Basiklios (talk) 21:43, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

The discussion is closed. It is stated that The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. Super Ψ Dro 21:55, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

About the Romanians page on wikipedia

Hello there, I was the one that wrote and quoted those sentences. I was the one that wrote the initial references and added the extra ones because they also have the pages where the idea or quote is from. It's a really bad idea to delete those because they are more exact and from more historians.The Alexiad by Anna Comnena, English translation: Elisabeth Dawes, London, 1928 is just the translation but the books by the Romanian historians explain the context of what I wrote on the wikipedia page. Just because it's an English translation and you have a bias doesn't mean you should dismiss Romanian historians that talk about those passages from The Alexiad. Please restore the quotes. Thank you in advance. Ninhursag3 (talk) 05:55, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

Please format them adequately. See how other sources are cited. You can't just add the surname and some pages. You need to put the title, the link, etc.. Also, please be careful with random spaces. I had to clean up every time you edited the page. Super Ψ Dro 09:15, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

I'm new to editing wikipedia pages, sorry. The information I have I translated it from here: https://historia.ro/sectiune/general/bizantinii-despre-romani-sunt-soldati-viteji-583565.html

References are at the bottom where it says "Note". I think some of the books might not have a pdf or link online...The references I used are number 16, 17, 18 from the "Note". Ninhursag3 (talk) 09:47, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

Also 19 from "Note". Ninhursag3 (talk) 09:48, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

It is not necessary to have a link to the full work. A Google Books link, even if not accessible, suffices. The point is that the reader can go somewhere to verify the information if they want to. If the source is not open to the public, they may still request access to a university if they really want to read the original source themselves for example.

No worries, sorry for the hostility. Most newcomers don't usually know how to engage in proper discussion, unlike you, and can get hard to deal with. Super Ψ Dro 09:56, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

Thank you, I try not to be thorn in your side. Cooperation is the best thing. I will try to find the google books link or some similar links. Can you please help me with finding them if that's not too bothersome to you?

I found: E. Stănescu, Les „Vlahoi“ de Kinnamos et Choniatès et la présence militaire byzantine au nord du Danube sous les Comnènes, în Revue des Études Sud-Est Européennes , IX, 1971, 3, p. 588-592

http://opac.regesta-imperii.de/lang_en/anzeige.php?pk=337176

Another link for The Alexiad by Anna Comnena. Edited and translated by Elizabeth A. Dawes. London: Routledge, Kegan, Paul, 1928: https://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/basis/AnnaComnena-Alexiad.asp

For the Romanian sources I can't find it online, only by buying the physical book I guess. Ninhursag3 (talk) 11:50, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

This map you uploaded [2] is copyrighted. It is going to be deleted from Commons. You need to find one with a free license, which might not exist. Most images in the Internet are copyrighted and cannot be uploaded.

Also, the proper way of formatting sources is using these templates, depending on the context: Template:Cite journal, Template:Cite book, Template:Cite news or if no other one fits, Template:Cite web. You have to fill in the parameters shown there. You don't need to use them all though some like |url= and |title= are mandatory. Raw citations are either removed or converted to these templates.

Yes, the first link is nice. For the second work, use this [3]. Generally everything is at worldcat.org, I assume it's an universal digital library. By the way, you would ideally also cite the exact page for books and academic journals if known. This is not mandatory and I haven't done it 100% of the time, but it is the highest-quality practice. So add them if you know them. Also, when a citation is repeated, you don't cite it two times with the exact text, you name use <ref name=" x name "></ref> the first time and <ref name=" x name " /> the second.

And finally. Be careful with what you say in Wikipedia. Accusing editors of bias based on their nationality [4] is near crossing the line. In private we might believe whatever we want. It is not unexpected that disagreement may arise between Hungarians and Romanians anyway. It's been that way for centuries... But pointing the nationality of editors during these disagreements as an argument is not well-regarded.

Feel free to ask me any doubt that may arise for you, though I would recommend reading some guidelines, rules and conventions. Or you can learn the hard practical way as I did, for which I'd reccomend just copying how things are done in the best articles you see. Super Ψ Dro 16:42, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

Support for Tatars in Romania

Hello! I did see that you have connection with Romania. In Translatewiki.net is a discussion that I opened for add the language variant Crimean Tatar (Romania) of the Crimean Tatar language. When you like, you can write there some informations about the Tatars in Romania for support and source. Many regards Zolgoyo (talk) 11:47, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

With all respect I don't think there should be one. It's just a dialect after all. I imagine Crimean Tatar Wikipedia is already pretty short. To also split up the language and make projects for each dialect seems counterproductive. Are you sure there are other Romanian Tatars that will agree with your view on the dialect and work on this project rather than on the Crimean Tatar one? Super Ψ Dro 12:19, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

There is also Crimean Tatar Wikipedian Visem in the same Idea. Our idea is a variant, like Chinese (Hong Kong) in Chinese Wikipedia. See also in Phabricator T326864 and T332922. I as a native speaker have actually many knowledge about the language and we in Dobruja and Turkey have different dialect than those one in Crimea and also some different letters in the alphabet. The standard language is based on Crimean variant, which has Russian loan words and more Oghuz influence. We have actually not Russian words, we use Turkish and Romanian instead and we speak more Kipchak. There is a book published in Romania about the alphabet; ALFABE. Constanta: Editura Imperium. 2015. p. 78. ISBN 978-606-93788-8-5. {{cite book}}: Cite uses deprecated parameter |authors= (help) There is also the UDTTMR organization, you can find them in Facebook or YouTube. Zolgoyo (talk) 14:50, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

The solution to that can be just using several scripts and writing forms for the language in Crimean Tatar Wikipedia. See for example Aromanian or Serbian Wikipedia. Super Ψ Dro 16:07, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

Yes, this is the idea, to put a alphabet converter in Crimea Tatar Wikipedia. And translate in Translatwiki.net with the dialect. This means the pages will be available in the alphabet from Romania and the translations from Translatewiki.net in the dialect. This is not a idea to start a completely new project, just to support the alphabet used in Romania in Wikipedia and translate with the dialect in Translatewiki.net. Zolgoyo (talk) 16:56, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

I see. Then it makes sense. Super Ψ Dro 18:37, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

Aromâni

Nu știam că tu ești autorul articolelor despre aromâni pe Wikipedia în limba engleză. Îți mulțumesc. Sunt bine scrise și, fără legătură cu CEE Spring, voi continua să mai traduc din ele. Donarius (talk) 18:39, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

Mulțumesc! Your translations to other projects are greatly appreciated. Super Ψ Dro 18:47, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

WP:ANI

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Transylvanian peoples

Hi Super!

I plan to update that article List of Transylvanians, alphabetical order (or maybe by born date), and by era to oversee them easier or maybe by occupation.

I think we should list people who are really Transylvanian, born or life there, the orange: Transylvania#/media/File:Transylvania, Banat, Crisana and Maramures.svg. Banat, Crisana, and Maramures are not Transylvania proper. For example I think Endre Ady (from Căuaș) or Ferenc Kölcsey (from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Săuca) or Bela_Lugosi or Victor Babeș (from Banat) are not Transylvanians. What do you think?

OrionNimrod (talk) 09:56, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

Hello. I don't think they should be removed. Today Hungarians, Romanians and other peoples include Banat, Crișana and Maramureș when talking about Transylvania. They're within Transylvania in its wide sense. This is the practice we take at Wikipedia. Super Ψ Dro 15:57, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

Filip Mișea

Salut. Vezi că îmbolnăvirea lui Toma Caragiu de enterocolită pe care ai menționat-o în articolul Filip Mișea provine din cartea Toma Caragiu. Ipostaze (Editura Expert, București, 2003), nu din DIARO. Donarius (talk) 18:15, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Există Гоно Мегин și s-ar putea căuta ceva surse pentru dezvoltarea articolului. Nu cred că ștergerea sa ajută. Voi mai cerceta chestiunea. Donarius (talk) 10:09, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

Sure, but don't rely too much on the Bulgarian Wikipedia articles. Someone did some hard work a few years back, I'd say most notable Aromanian biographies have a Bulgarian Wikipedia page, but there are also many articles about individuals who are of low notability, have little if any discussion in academia, and can only be referenced with lower quality web pages and blogs. The worst problem is the fact that some biographies are marked as being Aromanian or Megleno-Romanian simply because of having been born in an Aromanian or Megleno-Romanian village. An example is Georgios Papageorgiou, I couldn't find any source in any language calling him Megleno-Romanian/Vlach/Megleno-Vlach or whatever yet he is categorized as Megleno-Romanian because he was born in the village of Liumnița. Bulgarian Wikipedia is a good place to get inspiration for researching topics but not a good place to depend on and translate articles from. I researched back in the day and as I see it only these figures [5] and perhaps Dumitru Cerna are notable Megleno-Romanians.

By the way, sorry for leaving your earlier message unreplied, I had read it and wanted to reply to it later but I forgot. I just looked into the source and you're right, I've fixed the error. Super Ψ Dro 10:53, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

Ai dreptate. Privesc cu circumspecție articolele bulgărești și într-o anumită măsură și pe cele grecești. Le consider ca un punct de plecare și încerc să înlocuiesc sursele lor cu unele surse pertinente, iar atunci când nu găsesc nimic convenabil (nici măcar temporar) prefer să renunț la acele texte. Din păcate, materialele sunt puține și uneori cu destule neclarități. Totuși e un pas înainte în cercetarea problematicii aromânilor. Donarius (talk) 12:19, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

Greek Wikipedia is better by virtue of not having tons of articles of low quality of people who shouldn't have them. There's some articles on Aromanian biographies that do not exist in other Wikipedias, for example the Markides Puliu brothers. Generally, those articles on Bulgarian Wikipedia that someone has translated to Greek, of which there are several cases, are notable. The problem with Greek Wikipedia is that it tends to ignore the Aromanian heritage of many individuals, simply referring to them as Greeks. Which quite coincidentally corresponds with history. Super Ψ Dro 12:41, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

WP:SYNTH

Hello, you are an experienced editor are you not? So why are you edit warring to restore WP:SYNTH content on White-blue-white flag? The source you are using says nothing about what you are adding, the closest thing is "hosts" which is unclear and certainly different from being "sponsored" or "based". I would suggest you either find a source that actually says what you are adding, or stop edit warring to restore the unsourced content. Thanks. TylerBurden (talk) 01:38, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Hello. To my understanding "hosted in Ukraine" would mean the same as "Ukraine-based". Also WP:SKYISBLUE. However this is a petty argument and I will waste no more time into it. I only wanted the link to the Belgorod Oblast incursion to be preserved but apparently this is not possible. Super Ψ Dro 10:31, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Maybe English is not your first language, but hosted is not the same as being based somewhere, that's where the issue is, like the policy says "do not combine material from multiple sources to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by any source". The Ukraine connections to this group should be concretely referenced, it has nothing to do with the sky being blue. TylerBurden (talk) 11:07, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

It indeed isn't. I apologize for the misunderstanding then. Super Ψ Dro 11:41, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Everyone makes mistakes including me, so it's not a big deal. I don't disagree with linking to the raid, I was just having a look at the reference which does mention it so if I'm able to come up with a decent way to word it following the source I'll try to add one. Maybe there are other references better covering the connection of the raid and balloon. TylerBurden (talk) 12:21, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Bakhmut overcitation

Just wanted to let you know that I am also, and always have been, against overcitation. But in the case of Bakhmut specifically I have overcited a bit the sources regarding the city's capture only temporarily due to the fact there are many non-neutral pro-Ukrainian editors who continue denying this (even though pro-Ukrainian sources are now confirming it as well). After eventually this reality becomes accepted by that part of the editor community we can cut down on the number of citations. EkoGraf (talk) 22:43, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

About article creation

Hi, I would like to create a article about the Tatar language in Romania (similar articles like: Romanian language in Serbia, Russian language in Latvia, English language in Puerto Rico etc.), so when you don't think is needed, than let make a discussion in discussion page. Zolgoyo (talk) 13:01, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

I've tried to explain to you that the topic is not notable and that its contents can and should simply be covered in another more general article. Go ahead, I will nominate it for deletion afterwards and we will let other people decide, again. Super Ψ Dro 13:05, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

Zolgoyo, that is a far better article. It was one thing to try to pass a "Romanian Tatar language" and it is another to make an article covering the use of an existing language in a country. I will not take any actions against the article. Congratulations for the well-written article, sorry for this annoying process. It irritates me when other users meddle into my editing and I do not wish to do the same to others but it is necessary to respect the policies of the website and so far how you titled and wrote the article it looked like it was implying the existence of a new language. I would only ask you not to add it into articles such as the list of Turkic languages because again, it is not a language. Not even a dialect, it is Crimean Tatar used in Romania. Articles you cited above such as "Romanian language in Serbia" are not treated as dialects (the equivalents in this case would be "Banat Romanian dialect" and "Oltenian dialect"). Super Ψ Dro 19:58, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Campaignbox Hungarian–Romanian War

Template:Campaignbox Hungarian–Romanian War has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 11:58, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

Nicolae Velo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nicolae_Velo.png Nu e Nicolae Velo, ci Thanas Hangeara. Vezi https://dinitrandu.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/40972920-Farsarotu-Nr34-2010.pdf, p. 12. Donarius (talk) 15:11, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

You're right. What a stupid error. Super Ψ Dro 17:22, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

Talk:Kakhovka_Dam

why you delete on Talk:Kakhovka_Dam instead of give a reply?

--151.44.34.42 (talk) 12:23, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

Pareques

Good morning from sunny Scotland.

I have reverted some of your edits.

1. in species lists under a genus article it is normal to have the common names in parentheses and to have the name have an initial capital letter.
2. An author’s name in parentheses means that it is a change from the original binomial.
3. the type species of a genus is fixed at the name used by the author of the genus, in this case it was Grammistes acuminatus that Gill named as the type species of his new genus, Pareques.

Thank you for your edits, Quetzal1964 (talk) 08:58, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

Hello. Thank you for the improvements you gave the article. About the second point you're right, it was a mistake from my part. I consider the first and third personal preferences as I've never seen such a consistency or common practice and I've edited taxonomic articles for years. For the first point as I've mentioned previously I think it looks better than having a succession of parentheses and names that are capitalized without a real grammatical reason. For the third I simply have not seen this used in high-quality articles and I think it's just confusing for a reader, specially one without much taxonomical knowledge. Super Ψ Dro 09:05, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

From Template:Taxobox/doc "For animal entries, i.e. names under the International Code of Zoological Nomenclature (ICZN), the type species should be the original binomial name of the type species, but linked to its current article, and the authority should be plain (no parentheses)." I have also edited taxonomic articles for 12+ years now and the common name as I set them out are the norm, in my experience. Quetzal1964 (talk) 09:26, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

Very well, I suggest we leave it as it is as a middle ground in between the both of us. Have a happy editing. Super Ψ Dro 10:12, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

Okay, but one other thing, the author names and dates should be in small text in the species list. Quetzal1964 (talk) 10:45, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

Sorry, you misunderstood. The small text is for a list of species and is not used for the authors in the taxon and type species fields. The Genus list template automatically makes the author names small too. Quetzal1964 (talk) 18:22, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

I reverted myself. Hopefully that should be all. Super Ψ Dro 19:17, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

Tatar in Dobruja

Hi, in one of the References that you add to "Taner Murat" has also information about the Tatar language (Kazan Tatar) spoken by the Dobrujan Tatars. When you read correctly, you can also see that sometimes are the terms "Crimean", "Dobrujan" or "Nogai" used, but in other cases not. Zolgoyo (talk) 19:49, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

You mean I referred to some Tatar languages/variants as Crimean Tatar when the source did not say they were? My apologies if so. Super Ψ Dro 19:54, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

Request for your opinion on renaming the Romani people page to Roma (people

Hello there, sorry for bothering you. We talked before a few months ago when I was new to wikipedia. There is an issue I raised here: Talk:Romani people#Request for changing the title from Romani people to Roma people. Most of Europe and the world uses Roma, not Romani. Romani is the feminine adjective form.

My argument: "The most used formal plural form in most countries is Roma, not Romani. Here is the word Roma used in formal contexts: European Roma Rights Centre, Decade of Roma Inclusion, Contact Point for Roma and Sinti Issues, Roma Special School.

At the first World Roma Congress in 1971, usage of the word "Roma" (rather than variants of "Gypsy") was also accepted by a majority of attendees. The "Roma" name is the most formal use that the World Roma Congress decided back in 1971 by the Roma leaders themselves.

Most ethnicities/nationalities have a noun, and not an adjective, example: Spaniards, Italians, Bulgarians, Romanians, Hungarians etc

Instead of the noun, plural form Roma, the adjective Romani is used, which makes people confuse them with Romanians, it even says at the top "Not to be confused with Romani people." Since there is confusion something should be done about it, thus the use of Roma (people) as the title of the article."

This is not a move to insult the Roma, Roma as a noun is grammatically correct as well as more frequently used and unlike Gypsy, it's formal.

Regarding the possible confusion with the city of Rome: Romanian is an ethnicity, Rome (Roma in Italian) is just a city, it's not a country or an ethnicity. An entire ethnicity should take priority over one single city. The confusion is greater between two ethnicities: Romanian and Romani than an ethnicity and a city: Roma (people) and Rome (city).

Please tell me if you support my argument or if you oppose it. I think you already know that either oppose or support is written in bold. I hope you will support me, but ultimately it's your decision.

Hope you will take a little bit of your time for this issue, thank you very much. Ninhursag3 (talk) 21:52, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Ah, almost forgot Roma (people) just like Dom (caste) with parenthesis that specifies. Ninhursag3 (talk) 21:56, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Hello. Glad to see you've improved but you still have some problems I see, which is okay for someone relatively new. You should've formulated your requested move based on WP:COMMONNAME. This is the single most important policy for deciding article titles, and arguments such as "Roma will avoid confusion with Romania" are not defensible through Wikipedia policy and also are subjective. I usually use Google Scholar for determining whether a name is more common than another in Wikipedia. To my surprise "Roma people" is more common than "Romani people" (18.800 vs 6.860 results). Still I imagine this issue is more nuanced so I'd recommend taking a look at past discussions, maybe there is a demonstration that Romani people is in fact more common because otherwise I don't know why would it retain the current name. I've seen some arguments in the discussion such as that some Romani subgroups do not identify as Roma but I believe these are secondary issues. If Roma was the most common way of referring to them then that would be the title appropriate for the article. Note that Google Scholar is not the only plausible option. I also use Google Books, Google News or even regular Google for determining how common a name is. The point is that you do your own research and determine whether the title you wish to propose is the most common one. It doesn't have to be through my same procedures.

Still even though I'd rather have the article use Roma I will not participate in your requested move as it has become a very long and complex discussion even though it does not have many votes (I see you've already been told about WP:BLUDGEONING at your talk page) and also because you did not formulate your RM properly (based on WP:COMMONNAME as it should have been). You may still request another move when you're more experienced and you have a better understanding of the functioning of Wikipedia but I'd recommend waiting at least a year. Another RM after a recent one, specially from the same person, would probably be quickly rejected. Super Ψ Dro 22:26, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Hello@Ninhursag3, as you can see:

• http://www.sinti-roma-sh.de/wer-sind-sinti-und-roma/, or here *https://www.researchgate.net/publication/305298773_Roma_Culture_Problems_and_Challenges.

In Germany and other countrys in europe, The Word Roma is used, this romani name is american-english, started by this Ian hanckok and his followers, also how they will romani spelled out? Roumany ???, hhh in american-english style :).

But @Ninhursag3, I will give you a good friendy advice, listen to me:

You can't beat this lobby here. Your answers will be interpreted as bad behavior and your work on pages as disruptive changes, they don't accept sources, even this are good sources, they don't like. They will block you, sooner or later, or thought you as a suckpuppet from blocked users, like Tagaworshah did, you see what he have done against your, he thought you are a suckpuppet of me. The same thing happened to me, that's exactly how it behaved.

My best advice to you, let it be, it's useless. You're just getting worked up for nothing, it is best to leave the english wikipedia. Tagaworshah and Netherzone and many others, etc they all will attack you and thouht you as a suckpuppet, believe me, they will also delete what I write to you here. Nafteta (talk) 11:32, 23 June 2023 (UTC)