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== Invitation to Cornell study on Wikipedia discussions ==

Hello Steel1943,

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== [[Ballad for Americans (album)]] ==

Could you please move "[[Ballad for Americans (album)]]" back to "[[Ballad for Americans (Bing Crosby album)]]"? You [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ballad_for_Americans_(Bing_Crosby_album)&action=history thought that was "unnecessary disambiguation"]. But it was Paul Robeson who originally released the cantata as an album (a two-record set) and I think his version is more famous. (There's no article about that original album yet.) And redirect "[[Ballad for Americans (album)]]" to simply "[[Ballad for Americans]]". --[[User:Moscow Connection|Moscow Connection]] ([[User talk:Moscow Connection|talk]]) 03:06, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
:{{Ping|Moscow Connection}} I made that move 7 years ago, so no. You will need to use the [[WP:RM]] process. Also, see [[WP:ALBUMDAB]]. [[User:Steel1943|<span style="color: #3F00FF;">'''''Steel1943'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 03:25, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
::It's just that I thought you were an admin. (I see now, I'll just have to create an article about the Paul Robeson album.) --[[User:Moscow Connection|Moscow Connection]] ([[User talk:Moscow Connection|talk]]) 07:50, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

== WP:RFD work ==

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== Monotypic taxa ==

Just to note that as per the two pages linked from [[Wikipedia:MONOTYPICTAXA]], articles about a species which is the only one in its genus, as is the case with ×&nbsp;''Tripleurocota sulfurea'', are at the genus (unless this needs to be disambiguated). [[User:Peter coxhead|Peter coxhead]] ([[User talk:Peter coxhead|talk]]) 10:26, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
:{{Ping|Peter coxhead}} Could you please provide to me ''linked names'' of the article(s) I moved which contradicted these guidelines? (Unfortunately, I've done more edits lately than I usually do in such a period of time, so I recall what you are referring, but not specifically.) Either way, IMO, it's a bit odd that an article is titled with its parent subject rather than itself per [[WP:CONCISE]], so ... any chance you may know the discussion(s) which resulted in a guideline that possibly goes against [[WP:CONCISE]]? (I mean, I'm no stranger to titling and disambiguation guidelines that go against [[WP:PRECISE]] and [[WP:CONCISE]], considering [[WP:ALBUMDAB]] and [[WP:SONGDAB]], so I know it happens ... I'm just curious ''how'' it happened.) [[User:Steel1943|<span style="color: #3F00FF;">'''''Steel1943'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 00:50, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
::{{Ping|Peter coxhead}} Never mind about the list of articles as I see you have reverted my move(s). However, just curious: Do you know of any location where there might have been discussion that led to the consensus I referenced above? [[User:Steel1943|<span style="color: #3F00FF;">'''''Steel1943'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 06:35, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
:::It's a very long-standing convention across the tree of life wikiprojects, and seems to have been in place before the naming conventions guidance was split between fauna and flora, so I'm not sure where it was originally discussed; I would assume there's material in the archives of [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tree of Life]]. I've never known any other convention since I started editing seriously around 2010.
:::You wrote "it's a bit odd that an article is titled with its parent subject rather than itself", but this isn't the case. If a genus has only one species, then if there is an article on the genus and an article on the species there's really nothing different to say in each one. Having one article with a redirect avoids duplication of content and consequent redundancy. For a monospecific genus, the genus name and the species name refer to exactly the same set of organisms, so there's no problem with [[WP:PRECISE]]. As for [[WP:CONCISE]], the genus name is more concise than the species name, so once it's decided to have only one article, it seems to me that the genus name is the more obvious choice. But it is to some degree arbitrary which name is chosen, and other language wikis have made different choices.
:::[[User:Peter coxhead|Peter coxhead]] ([[User talk:Peter coxhead|talk]]) 07:38, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
::::{{Ping|Peter coxhead}} Regarding "{{Tq|If a genus has only one species, then if there is an article on the genus and an article on the species there's really nothing different to say in each one.}}: What I mean by that is ... at some point during some edits I have recently been performing, I found an article titled the genus but the article in its entirety described the species, which I found odd. I mean, in that case, I would believe the genus subject would have [[WP:REDLINK]] potential since it is/was not identified anywhere other than a brief mention on an article with the genus as a title, but the article is only about its only species. Meh, this policy of ours can potential cause article connection issues on [[Wikipedia:Wikidata|Wikidata]] since it could lead to Wikidata claiming an article about the genus on one Wikipedia discusses the same subject of another article on another Wikipedia, but that article is about the species. (I know the English Wikipedia tends to give local policy over fixing Wikidata issues, and I could have sworn that was written somewhere in the project space, so it is what it is.) Long story short, I've been editing regularly since about 2012, and ... this is the first time I can recall running into needing to know this article titling policy at any point during my time here ... which is a bit of a surprise for me since a good portion of the edits I do on here tend to be regarding titling articles per [[WP:PRECISE]] and [[WP:CONCISE]] in terms of disambiguation (besides my regular [[WP:RFD]] participation ... and whatever other redundant fixes I find that several articles tend to need.) Anyways, that's all I got for now, so ... as they say: Cheers! [[User:Steel1943|<span style="color: #3F00FF;">'''''Steel1943'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 20:01, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
:::::There's some discussion of the Wikidata issue at [[User:Peter coxhead/Wikidata issues#Monotypic taxa]]. As noted there, it's worse than genus/species issues for more complex monotypic taxa, because, for example, the general policy on the Spanish wikipedia is one article at the highest level, on the Italian wikipedia one article at the lowest level, and on the French wikipedia one article at each level except the genus. I regard the problem as being with Wikidata: it is supposed to model the external world as it is. The policy of only allowing 1:1 links manifestly fails to represent reality. [[User:Peter coxhead|Peter coxhead]] ([[User talk:Peter coxhead|talk]]) 08:08, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
::::::...[[D:Wikidata:Requests for comment/A need for a resolution regarding article moves and redirects|I've been dealing with that Wikidata redirect linking issue for over 10 years]], around the time Wikidata first went live. Now, yeah, Wikidata allows linking redirects, but only if the title is ''not'' a redirect when it is linked in Wikidata. I don't have the resources to figure out where on Wikidata this may be stated, but linking redirects directly through Wikidata links to the redirect's target instead. Annoying, but ... after discovering the initial failure to allow linking redirects over a decade ago, the fact that a workaround in Wikidata still needs to occur to link a redirect is frustrating. But, eh ... it is what it is. [[User:Steel1943|<span style="color: #3F00FF;">'''''Steel1943'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 18:52, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
:::::::Actually, you <em>can</em> link directly to a title that is a redirect. When you add the link, a little icon comes up next to the title you're adding (when you hover, the text "Click to assign a badge" appears – "badge" is very odd here to me). Clicking on the icon you can choose "intentional sitelink to redirect". I'm not sure how long this has been allowed – I found it by accident. [[User:Peter coxhead|Peter coxhead]] ([[User talk:Peter coxhead|talk]]) 11:39, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

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== A barnstar for you! ==

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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Replying to all your RfDs (that all had the same problem) made me lose a million brain cells. Anyway, how do you even log that many redirects in a day? [[User:The Corvette ZR1|<b style="color:#ff6600;">'''''The 🏎 Corvette 🏍 ZR1'''''</b>]]<sup>[[User talk:The Corvette ZR1|<b style="color:#0a0a0a;">''(The Garage)''</b>]]</sup> 22:45, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
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:{{Ping|The Corvette ZR1}} I used to do bundled nominations, and people complained. I then split them up, and then people complain. Since there is really no third option, guess people will just complain. 😂 [[User:Steel1943|<span style="color: #3F00FF;">'''''Steel1943'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 23:21, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
::[https://thriveworks.com/blog/why-are-we-always-complaining/#:~:text=Complaining%20about%20something%20is%20a,become%20habitual%E2%80%94or%20even%20addictive| It turns out, complaining is as addictive as beer.] [https://scienceandnonduality.com/article/the-science-of-happiness-why-complaining-is-literally-killing-you/| Also, you should tell them that complaining is literally killing them.] Sadly, I'm pretty sure these don't meet RS, so... umm... uhh... idk, my brain is dead lol. [[User:The Corvette ZR1|<b style="color:#ff6600;">'''''The 🏎 Corvette 🏍 ZR1'''''</b>]]<sup>[[User talk:The Corvette ZR1|<b style="color:#0a0a0a;">''(The Garage)''</b>]]</sup> 23:38, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

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== Redirects that don't have a space before the disambiguation searchable ==

Hey, not sure if you know this, but I've found <code>intitle:/a\(/</code> ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=intitle%3A%2Fa%5C%28%2F&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&ns0=1 example]; replace the letter to find more) which is useful to find redirects that don't have a space before the disambiguation. [[User:Gonnym|Gonnym]] ([[User talk:Gonnym|talk]]) 11:59, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
:{{Ping|Gonnym}} Look at the hidden text at the bottom of my user page... Been tweaking regexes for a bit to avoid false positives. 😉 [[User:Steel1943|<span style="color: #3F00FF;">'''''Steel1943'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 13:20, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
::Hidden text! [[User:Gonnym|Gonnym]] ([[User talk:Gonnym|talk]]) 13:32, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
:::{{Ping|Gonnym}} Eh, my regex setups would not have found {{No redirect|Tropical Storm Verna(1945)}} since my regexes are set up to ignore malformed "disambiguators" with the first character being a number, due to the high potential to return false positive results for valid chemistry-related redirects that have parentheses, dashes, and numbers at almost random locations. [[User:Steel1943|<span style="color: #3F00FF;">'''''Steel1943'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 14:26, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
::::{{Ping|Gonnym}} [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?go=Go&search=intitle%3A%2F%5B%5E+0-9%3A%5C-%5C%29%5D%5C%28%5B1-9%5D%5B0-9%5D%2F&title=Special%3ASearch&ns0=1 Just created a regex for years]. The search contained a very small amount of false positives (and may return different results every time it is used since the complicated regex makes the search function time out), but most seem like valid [[WP:RDAB]] issues. [[User:Steel1943|<span style="color: #3F00FF;">'''''Steel1943'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 14:36, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

== Ways to improve Brother's Keeper (2021 film) ==

Hello, Steel1943,

Thank you for creating [[Brother's Keeper (2021 film)]].

[[User:Bastun|I]] have tagged [[Brother's Keeper (2021 film)|the page]] as having some issues to fix, as a part of our [[WP:NPP|page curation process]] and note that:

{{Quote|1=Hi Steel1943. The article as it stands is borderline for meeting [[WP:NFILM]] and would really need to be expanded with additional [[WP:RS]] sources to demonstrate notability. It would benefit from an explanation of the plot, and the addition of a 'Reception' section. It would also benefit from addition to relevant Wikiprojects.}}

The tags can be removed by you or another editor once the issues they mention are addressed. If you have questions, leave a comment here and begin it with <code><nowiki>{{Re|</nowiki>Bastun<nowiki>}}</nowiki></code>. Remember to sign your reply with <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code>. For broader editing help, please visit the [[WP:TEAHOUSE|Teahouse]].

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[[User:Bastun|<span style="font-family:Verdana, sans-serif">Bastun</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Bastun|Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!]]</sup> 15:23, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
:{{Ping|Bastun}} This is a automated tool notification failure since I created the title as a redirect and I did not create any of the content on the page: The editor who did that was [[User:Inwind|Inwind]]. [[User:Steel1943|<span style="color: #3F00FF;">'''''Steel1943'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 15:44, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
:Also, I do not use the Page Curation tool, but if the tool allows custom notifications and you wrote that notification, you may want to look at the page's edit history next time to ensure the correct editor is named and the notification goes to them instead. Thanks. [[User:Steel1943|<span style="color: #3F00FF;">'''''Steel1943'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 15:47, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

::Apologies, yes, the tool identifies the 'page creator', I should have checked. My bad! [[User:Bastun|<span style="font-family:Verdana, sans-serif">Bastun</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Bastun|Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!]]</sup> 16:47, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

== Redirect disambiguation errors ==

Hey Steel! Thank you for your nominations at RfD by the way. I've been curious for a while if you've been working off of a list (from Quarry or somewhere else) in order to identify the redirects that make errors in disambiguation. I've ran a few tests of my own and found a slew of pages with disambiguation errors, although I haven't really bitten deeper into that chunk for a few reasons, mainly because my focus has been elsewhere and I wanted to confer alongside your efforts. I guess the main thing I'm wondering is if you've been working off a list, and/or how far through are you those nominations, and/or what criteria have you been using to make the list? Thanks, <span style="background-color: #FFCFBF; font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Utopes|Utopes]] <sub>('''[[User talk:Utopes|talk]]''' / '''[[Special:Contributions/Utopes|cont]]''')</sub></span> 02:15, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
:Oh wait... I can't believe I didn't see the other section two above this that I should've tacked onto, LOL. That does answer some of my questions, I haven't checked the regex yet. A lot of what I was looking into was missing or extra parentheses and how often those come up (there's a few hundred or so) but I wanted to see how likely it was that we'd be running into the same problematic redirects. <span style="background-color: #FFCFBF; font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Utopes|Utopes]] <sub>('''[[User talk:Utopes|talk]]''' / '''[[Special:Contributions/Utopes|cont]]''')</sub></span> 02:18, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
::By the way, I was investigating this around when I sent this message, but I thought you might want to take a look at this massviews of [[Foo(bar)]] redirects: [https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/massviews/?platform=all-access&agent=user&source=quarry&range=latest-20&project=en.wikipedia.org&sort=views&direction=1&view=list&target=79573]. The query it's based on, ([https://quarry.wmcloud.org/query/79573]) isn't a perfect catch-all by any means, as there's plenty of chemistry redirects which validly lack a space, and show up in this report because of it. But by looking at the viewcounts, most of the chemicals float to the top of the list view-wise (not all though). I saw looked into the regex you used in your searches, which is what I adapted for this query, but instead was looking at lowercase letters instead of numbers in the disambiguators. <span style="background-color: #FFCFBF; font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Utopes|Utopes]] <sub>('''[[User talk:Utopes|talk]]''' / '''[[Special:Contributions/Utopes|cont]]''')</sub></span> 18:43, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
:::{{Ping|Utopes}} I'll take a look at that Quarry inquiry ... beats having to reload my regex every time the search times out. (I used Quarry like once in the past, but couldn't really figure it out ... but since my real life time to dedicate to Wikipedia has been rather sporadic lately, the list of entries I get prior to the query timing out on search is usually all I have time for whenever I run the regex search.) [[User:Steel1943|<span style="color: #3F00FF;">'''''Steel1943'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 06:44, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
::::Sounds good if you do; for disclosure, I might also start chipping away at some of the redirects listed there in a little while. Although, I'm (quite surprisingly) trying to space out my nominations so I'm not just going all in for a singular category at RfD. As an example, I don't think I'm going to do any more RDAB nominations for a while as I'm waiting for my current few to simmer and conclude, and am instead putting my attention on the backend of the NPP queue instead. A strategy I've been thinking about is to bundle all of the redirects that are ''exactly'' of the form [[Foo(song)]], of which there's 129 (per [https://quarry.wmcloud.org/query/79827], but who said it was going to be easy 😅). Similarly there's 172 that are exactly like [[Foo(film)]], another common occurrence. We'll see how the next few weeks play out. Hope real life is going well though! Feel free to take it easy, there's no [[WP:DEADLINE|deadline]] by any means ^^ 😌 <span style="background-color: #FFCFBF; font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Utopes|Utopes]] <sub>('''[[User talk:Utopes|talk]]''' / '''[[Special:Contributions/Utopes|cont]]''')</sub></span> 06:54, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

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== Sorry about the script not working for "List of atheists, agnostics and other nontheists " ==

Searching it on wikipedia counts it as an article and not a redirect due to its status as rfD. [[User:1ctinus|<span style="background: maroon; padding: 3px; color: white;border-bottom:3px solid #400;">-1ctinus📝</span>]][[User talk:1ctinus|<span style="background: #216; padding: 3px; color: white; border-bottom: 3px solid #103">🗨</span>]] 11:50, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
*{{Ping|1ctinus}} I know, thus why I was stating you need to check your edits and/or scripts since all edits, correct or erroneous, are the responsibility of ''the editor who made them''. (Odd that I couldn't find a shortcut to a policy explaining that, but it's true.) [[User:Steel1943|<span style="color: #3F00FF;">'''''Steel1943'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 14:09, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
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== Adult fiction ==

Re your revert, ''Steel1943''. A merge had been completed by me sometime ago. An article on Adult fiction would duplicate most of the already existing <nowiki>[[Fiction]]</nowiki> article. I have now added a sentence to the lede of that article, and am considering whether more is needed. I probably should have done this at the time of the merging! Sorry. [[User:Rwood128|Rwood128]] ([[User talk:Rwood128|talk]]) 22:10, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
:{{Ping|Rwood128}} Not sure if you saw that I reverted my revert. Long story short, your subsequent edits to [[Fiction]] resolved the concerns I had with {{No redirect|Adult fiction}} going back to being a redirect. [[User:Steel1943|<span style="color: #3F00FF;">'''''Steel1943'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 23:12, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
:Thanks! [[User:Rwood128|Rwood128]] ([[User talk:Rwood128|talk]]) 10:58, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

== Barnstar time! ==
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* Also, I was WONDERING why the Prince logo wasn't showing up last night. I'd copied over the code from the [[Prince (musician)]] page, and when it worked right after the edit, just thought of it as 'done'. Thank you for helping un-nonsense-ify my post lol [[User:Lunamann|Lunamann 🌙🌙🌙 The Moooooooniest]] ([[User talk:Lunamann|talk]]) 02:02, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
*:{{Ping|Lunamann}} No problem! I figure ... I can tell you are trying your best to get the hang of things around here, as I did many years ago. Also, I saw something on some page about you describing something as turning it into a blank slate or something ... so, yeah, we have a page/shortcut for that as well: [[WP:TNT]]. (Go figure, huh? 😂) [[User:Steel1943|<span style="color: #3F00FF;">'''''Steel1943'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 03:33, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
*::{{Ping|Steel1943}} That would be, if I remember correctly... yup, [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion#Nooalf|My comment on the discussion for Nooalf.]] Thank you ''again'' lol! [[User:Lunamann|Lunamann 🌙🌙🌙 The Moooooooniest]] ([[User talk:Lunamann|talk]]) 07:14, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

== I retargeted [[Candidates for the first novel]] ==

Hello {{u|Steel1943}}, I'm not sure of the etiquette here but I saw the closed RfD for [[Candidates for the first novel]] and I thought [[List of claimed first novels in English]] was almost certainly the information someone would be looking for with that query (as opposed to [[Novel#Early novels]]). I changed the redirect myself, which I think is a find "bold" edit but I wanted to let you know in case you disagreed or in case there is a process I should follow in the context of RfD which I am not aware. Thanks for your cleanup work! [[User:LEvalyn|<span style="color: #6703fc">~ L</span><small> 🌸</small>]] ([[User talk:LEvalyn|talk]]) 18:02, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
:{{Ping|LEvalyn}} Only thing I really have to do to avoid huge amounts of controversy is ask the other participant in that discussion ... {{Ping|Johnbod}} Do you have a problem with the change? [[User:Steel1943|<span style="color: #3F00FF;">'''''Steel1943'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 23:01, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
::No, that's much better. I'd never seen that. Hang on - that only covers novels in English, whereas the other went to ancient & later novels. So I still prefer [[Novel#Early novels]]. [[User:Johnbod|Johnbod]] ([[User talk:Johnbod|talk]]) 04:34, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
:::{{Ping|LEvalyn|Johnbod}} Due to the above potential disagreement and since the redirect has been edited and reverted since my close, I have reopened the discussion and relisted it at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 9#Candidates for the first novel]]. [[User:Steel1943|<span style="color: #3F00FF;">'''''Steel1943'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 16:21, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
::::Thanks for relisting, Steel1943, that was the right call -- I had assumed the original choice was made without an awareness of [[Candidates for the first novel]] as an option but it looks like consensus is still clearly to stick with [[Novel#Early novels]]. It was good to have more discussion. [[User:LEvalyn|<span style="color: #6703fc">~ L</span><small> 🌸</small>]] ([[User talk:LEvalyn|talk]]) 05:22, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

== RfD ==

You can always let me know if you want [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 11#"Getting high" and "Being_high"|this discussion]] to be reopened. [[User:Okmrman|Okmrman]] ([[User talk:Okmrman|talk]]) 18:38, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
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== BFD ==

Hi! Can I ask why you created the shortcut [[WP:BFD]], which points to MFD? Not looking to blame you for anything, just not sure what it stands for. <b>[[User:HouseBlaster|House]][[Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster|<span style="color:#7D066B;">Blaster</span>]]</b>&nbsp;([[User talk:HouseBlaster|talk]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;he/him) 23:30, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
:{{Ping|HouseBlaster}} [[Wikipedia:Books for deletion]]. May want to consider bundling both at [[WP:RFD]]. (Heck, turns out I created both; I'm uncertain of their historical utility though, so I'm not going to tag them for {{Tl|Db-g7}}.) [[User:Steel1943|<span style="color: #3F00FF;">'''''Steel1943'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 02:05, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

==Tagging Talk pages for speedy deletion==
Hello, Steel1943,

It feels like years since we interacted last. I just want to say that there is no need to tag a talk page for CSD if the article/redirect page is already tagged for speedy deletion. Many admins use Twinkle which deletes them both at the same time and there is no reason to delete the Talk page before the main page. It can look misleading if an editor or admin is glancing at CSD categories to have existing Talk pages tagged as if they are orphaned Talk pages which they are not at the time of tagging. Basically, tagging the main Article/Redirect/Template/Category page is sufficient to ensure that the Talk page is also deleted. Thank you for all of your contributions to the Project. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">[[User:Liz|'''''L'''''iz]]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">[[Special:Contributions/Liz|'''''Read!''''']] [[User talk:Liz|'''''Talk!''''']]</sup> 21:38, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
:{{Ping|Liz}} Yes, it has been a good while! I hope all has been well. Anywho, to the method behind my madness:
:*At the present time, {{Tl|Db-x3}} is not built into [[Wikipedia:Twinkle|Twinkle]]. I keep track of my CSD tagging with Twinkle's CSD logging option, which does not function if the template is not built into Twinkle. At the present time for this specific application, the only option to update the CSD log is to tag the talk page, provided it exists.
:*{{Tl|Db-talk}}, an extension of [[WP:G8]] (as you are aware), has one line of verbiage in its automated message which is missing regarding the use of the template, specifically the following:<blockquote>"{{Tq|... for talk pages of ... pages currently flagged for speedy deletion}}"</blockquote>...meaning the double tagging is both allowed and apparently proper. (Maybe this verbiage needs to be added to the {{Tl|Db-talk}} template?)
:*I know this doesn't apply to you, but I've run across several instances over the years where an admin will delete a non-talk page, but then for some reason I guess, inadvertently uncheck the option to also delete the respective talk page. In cases like this, which do occur, having the talk page tagged as well allows someone to "admin the admin" if the initial admin does not delete the talk page. (I get there are some talk pages tagged with {{Tl|G8-exempt}}, but running across those do not happen very often.)
:...Anywho, that's my take on why I'm doing this, and ... I think my thought about adding the "{{Tq|... for talk pages of ... pages currently flagged for speedy deletion}}" verbiage to {{Tl|Db-talk}} may need some consideration to avoid such a disconnect happening again in the future. [[User:Steel1943|<span style="color: #3F00FF;">'''''Steel1943'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 21:51, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

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== Your moving of pages in arbitration space ==

You are moving several pages in arbitration space without discussion. While the reason may be valid, I would strongly suggest not doing this without first asking if this is okay. [[User:Dreamy Jazz|Dreamy <i style="color:#d00">'''Jazz'''</i>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Dreamy Jazz|talk to me]]'' &#124; ''[[Special:Contribs/Dreamy Jazz|my contributions]]''</sup> 20:50, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
:{{Ping|Dreamy Jazz}} [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration&oldid=288985256 This edit summary] seems to hint there is no issue with it, thus I started this task as I saw no controversy with it as these moves put the old discussions with the correct parent page. Because ... making sure archives match their correct parent page for ease of finding is cleanup. [[User:Steel1943|<span style="color: #3F00FF;">'''''Steel1943'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 20:53, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
::While it is probably better that these pages are moved, it is causing a flood of messages in the clerks IRC channel. So if you do start this again, I'd recommend doing this more slowly. Furthermore, some of the new locations were redirects (for example [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Cold fusion]]). While the edit summary in that example doesn't explain what motion necessitated the creation of the redirect, it seems that at some point the arbs were happier to redirect to the old location instead of moving the pages. [[User:Dreamy Jazz|Dreamy <i style="color:#d00">'''Jazz'''</i>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Dreamy Jazz|talk to me]]'' &#124; ''[[Special:Contribs/Dreamy Jazz|my contributions]]''</sup> 20:56, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
:::{{Ping|Dreamy Jazz}} Not sure I agree that my edit summary was not clear. "Match current name of parent page" seems to ... clarify exactly why I have been doing these moves, and the edit summary stating where the page was and where it was moved to inherently states what the former parent page was and what it is now. If need be, I can update that edit summary to "Match current name of parent page from [[Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration]] to [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case]]" if need be. (For the record, I did notice that not all subpages of [[Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration]] apply to moving them to [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case]] ... which is why I've been moving them in chunks by case rather than just moving the whole lot.) [[User:Steel1943|<span style="color: #3F00FF;">'''''Steel1943'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 21:03, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
::::Just to be clear, the edit summary I am talking about is an edit summary on a now deleted redirect (that was deleted by overwriting). [[User:Dreamy Jazz|Dreamy <i style="color:#d00">'''Jazz'''</i>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Dreamy Jazz|talk to me]]'' &#124; ''[[Special:Contribs/Dreamy Jazz|my contributions]]''</sup> 21:04, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
:{{Edit conflict}} {{Ping|Dreamy Jazz}} Also, per the way [[Template:ArbCom sidebar]] is set up at the present time, the search box uses the root "Wikipedia:Arbitration" to find pages. Unless the pages' names are updated, they cannot be found with this search bar. [[User:Steel1943|<span style="color: #3F00FF;">'''''Steel1943'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 20:58, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
:{{Ping|Dreamy Jazz}} Dangit ... annoying IIRC notifications. I'm assuming IIRC triggers a notification whenever a page in a certain subpage space is created ... and I'm assuming it is "Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests" or "Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Cases" or something of that nature? [[User:Steel1943|<span style="color: #3F00FF;">'''''Steel1943'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 20:59, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
::Yes. A bot keeps an eye on edits / log actions in arbitration space. There seems to be at least 6 IRC messages per case move. [[User:Dreamy Jazz|Dreamy <i style="color:#d00">'''Jazz'''</i>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Dreamy Jazz|talk to me]]'' &#124; ''[[Special:Contribs/Dreamy Jazz|my contributions]]''</sup> 21:01, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
:::{{Ping|Dreamy Jazz}} Dang, okay yeah, that's a bit annoying. I'll hold off for now; I still see it being necessary, but I get what you mean there. [[User:Steel1943|<span style="color: #3F00FF;">'''''Steel1943'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 21:04, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
::::I've have an arbitrator say that this is okay to do, so you can continue moving pages but preferably at a slower rate. [[User:Dreamy Jazz|Dreamy <i style="color:#d00">'''Jazz'''</i>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Dreamy Jazz|talk to me]]'' &#124; ''[[Special:Contribs/Dreamy Jazz|my contributions]]''</sup> 21:05, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
:::::{{Ping|Dreamy Jazz}} Thanks for doing the dirty work of asking someone for me! For now then, I guess I'm going to try to get the "A"s done, and then pick it back up in a few hours. (It's difficult to avoid too many notifications since I'm moving subpages of each case at once ... so, I may need a clearer number for what is "too many", but thanks for understanding that this is cleanup.) :D [[User:Steel1943|<span style="color: #3F00FF;">'''''Steel1943'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 21:06, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
::::::Someone will post here again if you are going to fast, so feel free to pick a speed. Also feel free to keep the log summary you were using before (as a shorter summary is less in terms of message content for IRC). [[User:Dreamy Jazz|Dreamy <i style="color:#d00">'''Jazz'''</i>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Dreamy Jazz|talk to me]]'' &#124; ''[[Special:Contribs/Dreamy Jazz|my contributions]]''</sup> 21:09, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
:::::{{Edit conflict}} {{Ping|Dreamy Jazz}} Quick question (and most likely my last ping to you on my talk page): Which talk page on Wikipedia would you believe to be be the best place to inform those receiving IIRC notifications that I am making these moves? For example, I'm not sure if I should post this notice on [[Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee]], [[Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests]], or somewhere else. [[User:Steel1943|<span style="color: #3F00FF;">'''''Steel1943'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 21:12, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
::::::[[Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee]] is probably the best place for this. [[User:Dreamy Jazz|Dreamy <i style="color:#d00">'''Jazz'''</i>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Dreamy Jazz|talk to me]]'' &#124; ''[[Special:Contribs/Dreamy Jazz|my contributions]]''</sup> 21:13, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
:::::::There is also [[Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee/Clerks]], but this probably should be seen by the arbitrators to let them know in case they wonder why the IRC is filled with messages. [[User:Dreamy Jazz|Dreamy <i style="color:#d00">'''Jazz'''</i>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Dreamy Jazz|talk to me]]'' &#124; ''[[Special:Contribs/Dreamy Jazz|my contributions]]''</sup> 21:14, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

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