User talk:TheTimesAreAChanging

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Hi TheTimesAreAChanging,

you recently reverted an edit that was meant to eliminate any POV and excessive content. I have kept the sources and only made it concise and have mentioned the celebrations. Here at wikipedia, we try to maintain a neutral and objective coverage and accounts of events and persons in order to contribute to a reliable education resource. However, the use of wikipedia accounts to advance political agendas is in breach of wikipedia guidelines; that being said, if you continue and persist to revert these edits or engage in an edit war on this topic, you may risk being reported for WP:SPA or as a politically motivated account not by me, but by other editors. thank you and have a nice day

Lo meiin (talk) 15:42, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

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RMaung (WMF) 16:29, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Your revert at History of Asia

Thanks for reverting the vandalism at History of Asia. The only thing that concerns me is the edit summary that you left on the page. I can certainly see how frustrating it can be to try to work constructively on editing the encyclopedia, only for an unregistered user to go back and undo the work with nonsensical edits just for fun. I think that it's pretty easy to lose sight of the fact that IP's are human too, especially if you come across vandalism from unregistered users often. OhKayeSierra (talk) 21:57, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

That's just a stock edit summary that I've started using recently whenever I revert IP vandalism. In my view, allowing people to edit as IPs is not, on net, beneficial to this project. Whether you agree or disagree with this perspective, it's not one that I am prohibited from expressing, as far as I know.TheTimesAreAChanging (talk) 17:06, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

September 2019

To enforce an arbitration decision and for topic ban violations and personal attacks, as per the WP:AE request, you have been blocked from editing for a period of 2 months. You are welcome to edit once the block expires; however, please note that the repetition of similar behavior may result in a longer block or other sanctions.

If you believe this block is unjustified, please read the guide to appealing blocks (specifically this section) before appealing. Place the following on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Please copy my appeal to the [[WP:AE|arbitration enforcement noticeboard]] or [[WP:AN|administrators' noticeboard]]. Your reason here OR place the reason below this template. ~~~~}}. If you intend to appeal on the arbitration enforcement noticeboard I suggest you use the arbitration enforcement appeals template on your talk page so it can be copied over easily. You may also appeal directly to me (by email), before or instead of appealing on your talk page.  Sandstein 15:37, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

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Arbitration enforcement action appeal by TheTimesAreAChanging

Procedural notes: The rules governing arbitration enforcement appeals are found here. According to the procedures, a "clear, substantial, and active consensus of uninvolved administrators" is required to overturn an arbitration enforcement action.

To help determine any such consensus, involved editors may make brief statements in separate sections but should not edit the section for discussion among uninvolved editors. Editors are normally considered involved if they are in a current dispute with the sanctioning or sanctioned editor, or have taken part in disputes (if any) related to the contested enforcement action. Administrators having taken administrative actions are not normally considered involved for this reason alone (see WP:UNINVOLVED).

Appealing user

TheTimesAreAChanging (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) – TheTimesAreAChanging (talk) 09:06, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Sanction being appealed

{{{Sanction being appealed}}}

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Sandstein (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA)

Notification of that administrator

The appealing editor is asked to notify the administrator who made the enforcement action of this appeal, and then to replace this text with a diff of that notification. The appeal may not be processed otherwise. If a block is appealed, the editor moving the appeal to this board should make the notification.

Statement by TheTimesAreAChanging

Sandstein previously indicated that editing, e.g., Vietnam War was not in violation of the AP2 indef TBAN that he imposed last year. Specifically, he stated that this diff "appears unrelated to US politics," implying that the war as such is not within the scope of AP2. (Were my edits at Icebreaker (Suvorov) also within the scope of AP2, since the USSR was a major U.S. ally during World War II?) Therefore, I have to correct Sandstein's closing remark that "TheTimesAreAChanging does not contest having violated their topic ban and having made personal attacks." I intended to contest those assertions in my statement, commenting that MVBW's diffs—including minor copy edits—were not compelling examples of any TBAN violation but rather a frivolous attempt to remove a user from an unrelated content dispute. (I also directed readers to Paul Siebert's statement explaining that MVBW was, in fact, defending Hitler as a defense against the claim that my observation that MVBW was defending Hitler constituted an actionable WP:PA.) If this edit to Korean War is actionable, unlike the earlier edit to Vietnam War, the distinction seems arbitrary to me and the violation was unintentional. Given that no disruption (including PAs, etc.) was even alleged to have been associated with any of those diffs, blocking me on that basis seems to be punitive rather than preventative, so the block should be reduced.

I never appealed the TBAN, but I have little choice but to request that it be modified or reduced now that Sandstein is promulgating an expanded definition of its scope. You could say that any violation, even inadvertent, resets the clock, but I have made an obvious effort to adhere to the ban and the reaching evident in some of MVBW's diffs itself demonstrates this; certainly, there have been no other AE complaints against me since the TBAN was imposed, nor any edits of mine to any articles clearly labelled as subject to DS. Consider the following: 1.) My first AE TBAN was indefinite (rather than lasting for one, three, or six months, etc.), which is unprecedented in my experience on Wikipedia. Its reimposition has significantly limited my editing for more than a year, but if I have unknowingly made constructive edits to articles that could fall within the ban depending on the interpretation of an administrator, that would be an argument for narrowing it, rather than continuing with an open-ended restriction. 2.) The conduct for which I was previously sanctioned at AE was hardly exceptional; if you review the case, you will see that it concerned edit warring at an AP2 article, but I did not violate 3RR and 1RR/consensus required was not in place. While I regret taking the bait, three administrators—GoldenRing, Awilley, and Timotheus Canens—argued that the indef TBAN that Sandstein imposed was too harsh and/or that the other party in the dispute was guilty of (in the words of Timotheus Canens) "blatant violations of our content policies" by restoring what amounted to WP:HOAX material. In that case as well as the one recently initiated by MVBW, Sandstein took harsh, unilateral action against me without regard for the fact that my edits were directed against WP:HOAX and WP:PROFRINGE content, penalizing me for my inability to weaponize AE as effectively as other editors. The outcome genuinely seems to me to be unjust, and I would be remiss if I did not state my case here, whatever the odds of success.TheTimesAreAChanging (talk) 09:06, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Result of the appeal by TheTimesAreAChanging

This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above.

To whoever copies this, please check for and correct formatting issues if at all possible—it's hard for me to do so when I am unable to go into preview mode at AE. Perhaps you could even mention that, since I am appealing two sanctions and could have appealed them both separately, there is really no need for Sandstein to trim my statement when it is barely over 500 words anyway. Thanks in advance,TheTimesAreAChanging (talk) 09:06, 21 September 2019 (UTC)}}

Copied to AE + notified Sandstein.Icewhiz (talk) 07:32, 22 September 2019 (UTC)