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== Minor edit ==

Please don't mark any edit as minor that might be disputed: [[WP:ME|A minor edit is one that the editor believes requires no review and could never be the subject of a dispute.]]

When you used Citation bot to make [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Oxygen_toxicity&diff=947309262&oldid=943777931 this edit to the Featured Article Oxygen toxicity], you changed {{tl|cite web}} to {{tl|cite document}}, which is not only disputable, but incorrect. The source is a web page, not a document or a journal. I hope that you can see the problems it can cause when marked as a minor edit, and that you will take care to avoid those problems in the future. --[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] ([[User talk:RexxS|talk]]) 19:15, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

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Thank you!

Thanks

... for fixing those DOIs. It's a vital maintenance task that is not normally listed or tracked, but makes a very important contribution to Wikipedia's linkage to other resources! JFW | T@lk 19:31, 27 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have also been submitting hundreds of ones that should work to www.doi.org. Many of then are already fixed. Yippee. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 17:50, 29 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

My thanks also (noticed this fix). If you have experience in submitting DOIs to dx.doi.org does that mean it would be possible to get doi:10.1001/archinte.142.10.1816 to point here again by updating their record? Thanks Rjwilmsi 18:57, 8 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thanks for this. That had been confusing the hell out of me! How did you know they were there? SmartSE (talk) 16:32, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I work hard to fix bad DOI's and Handles in General. So, I have just developed a sense of what can be wrong with a DOI. AManWithNoPlan (talk)

Thanks!

Hi AManWithNoPlan,

Just wanted to drop a quick note and say thanks for all the doi fixes you've been doing. I'm still working on the carbon cycle page plus the new pages I'm writing for the section and I sure appreciate any help I can get - especially on such things as citations, which I'm not the best at. Thanks again!

Daniel Lee (talk) 20:56, 11 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thank you for cleaning up my citation with the template at Negative temperature. RJFJR (talk) 14:35, 9 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Wikibirthday!!!

Hey, AManWithNoPlan. Just stopping by to wish you a Happy Wiki-Birthday from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee!
Have a great day!
Anastasia (talk) 19:53, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Lightning Man

Thanks for your help with Khin Sok - that was super fast - too fast for me
All the bestWikirictor (talk) 16:31, 12 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

PROXY

Extended content

What does 'proxy' mean?

What does 'proxy' mean? BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 06:08, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

There are a huge number of worthless URL's on Wikipedia that go through school specific proxy's. I am turning them into world usable URL's. Many of them are links to "tmp" files, which means they are 100% useless. On some articles, I have had to delete all the references! AManWithNoPlan (talk) 13:45, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know what a "proxy" is, except for proxy voting. Is it computerese? Can you be more specific in your Edit summaries? And also explain here. Thanks. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 04:45, 14 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Wouldn't it be better to simply add an additional link rather than remove the one that is already there? Now I can't get into the source, which I could do before with my library card. What is the purpose of this wholesale revision? BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 04:58, 14 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Per the external links guideline, WP:ELNO#7, links that can only be used by a small number of readers should be avoided. Also by your logic, the list of links could become ridiculously long, arguably including a link to the proxy service of every library with a Proquest subscription. Far better to just link directly to the actual site and let readers figure out how to log in with their library cards. Someguy1221 (talk) 01:07, 15 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
So, then, "proxy" means "Proxy server." I know it might seem strange to you, but there must be an untold number of people who don't recognize that term, proxy, as having anything to do with computers. I would suggest making a longer Edit summary to explain what you are doing. Your friend, BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 03:10, 16 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I am now doing that. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 03:13, 16 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]


September 2016 - Proxy

Information icon Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions, such as the edit you made to Contemporary Christian music, did not appear constructive and have been undone. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use the sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Bare URLs are not appropriate as they can cause [[[Wikipedia:Link rot|link rot]]. Please stop changing fully formatted references back to bare URLs. Walter Görlitz (talk) 06:23, 8 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

yes, but removing titles that are wrong is a useful thing. Also, some one with Oxford music access should put in the correct titles. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 13:27, 8 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
cleaning up proxy URL's is my latest project. By removing the proxy, now many of them are world link able. Unfortunately, many require a login and "login" is a silly title AManWithNoPlan (talk) 13:34, 8 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I am now using my library card access to add titles AManWithNoPlan (talk) 15:11, 8 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I don't understand what you mean by "library card access" in your particular case. Can you elucidate? Maybe there should be a WP:Essay somewhere to explain this matter. Yours in Wikidom, BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 03:05, 16 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I try to use the proquest url and it asks me what my library district is, then I type in my library card number and it gives me the information about the link. If my library is paying for that data, then I can also see the full article. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 03:09, 16 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
This is cool. Can you write up an WP:Essay on this? I will help if you want. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 03:17, 16 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]


Discussion of Proxies

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 05:05, 14 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Just to let you know, I closed it a moment ago. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 04:12, 15 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
thank you AManWithNoPlan (talk) 10:54, 15 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

ProxyURL, use AWB

Hey! I saw some of your work on the proxy urls: that seems like something that could move a lot quicker with a semi-automated tool, like WP:AWB or a WP:Bots. Have you thought about requesting access to one or both? Sadads (talk) 21:31, 16 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I have, but so far there is so much variety and some proxy URL's can't be fixed. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 22:20, 16 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]


Proxy?

Greetings! I noticed that you've been making some fixes to a series of articles about South Carolina Supreme Court justices that I set up a while back. That's great. I plowed through those people and created baseline entries for each of them, and I was hoping they might attract a little more attention than they have.

It looks like a lot of the fixes involve "removing a proxy." I have to admit that I'm really most interested in the underlying content of articles and not all of the background machinery that goes into the coding. But, I'm open to learning.

Can I ask for a super simple explanation of what exactly is being changed? If you can explain it to super low brow terms, I'd like to make sure that I am not making the same mistake elsewhere.

Kevin ProfReader (talk) 02:21, 20 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

some URL's are unique to a specif library's computers. It might be obvious like www.xxxx.com.mylibyary.org should be changed to www.xxxx.com, but some are less obvious like mylibrary.org:1234 should be www.xxxx.org. In the case of proquest.com, by removing the proxy it makes it possible for anyone with a library card can access it ---- although you might just see the title if your library hasn't paid for it. AManWithNoPlan (talk),
as a Ph.D. I find working on the nuts and bolts a nice distraction from content AManWithNoPlan (talk) 02:51, 20 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I sent a note to the Los Angeles Public Library to get some help on logging into Proquest with their password, or whatever I need. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 19:52, 3 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]


Arizona proxies/Proquest

Hello. Thanks for your work on this. I noticed these too yesterday. I checked some of them but found that on occasion they used a citation that was unrelated to the content. I referred it to an administrator here. Karst (talk) 14:00, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This is a bot that is about to run and clean up a bunch of these. The proxys are lame, but the authentication in the title is amazingly lame AManWithNoPlan (talk) 14:14, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

BeenAroundAWhile

I don't appreciate your removing the so-called "proxy" from the Bolton Hall (California) article, not from any of the others which you have "fixed," because now thousands of people with L.A. Public Library cards can't get in to follow the link. I'm sure you didn't think of this, but how are we now to see what the source said? BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 05:16, 18 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I am very aware of this problem, but Wikipedia has actual policies against proxy urls. People just need to login with a library card. The links before are accessible by a few people who are physically at a library, while the fixed links are accessible to anyone in the world with a library card from most libraries. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 11:54, 18 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Citation bot

Hey, thanks for another suite of fixes to Citation bot; you'll be delighted to learn that after a very long-awaited free weekend I've finally beaten the issues that had held me back from rolling the bot out to production, so all your hard-written fixes are now live! Yay!

Now that we have a CI setup that I'm confident in (and I'm more confident in how it operates), I'm going to suggest a more positive approach to bug fixes. I don't think we need to make as extensive use of the development branch as we have been, so suggest now that we work directly on the master branch, using a separate pull request for each bug. If each pull request includes a test case that addresses the bug (ideally by modifying an existing test case, to avoid test suite bloat), then when the PR goes green on Travis, I'll merge it directly into master and pull it to the production site so that the fix is available immediately. We can use the development branch for more significant infrastructure-level changes as and when these are necessary (which is hopefully rarely).

Cheers, and thanks again for your help in maintaining the bot. Martin (Smith609 – Talk) 07:31, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!

Hi, thanks for cleaning up the jstor cites on several pages. I apologize, those were generated automatically by visual editor. I'm curious if the right way to go is to use WP:UCB for all similar references moving forward as I've not been used to doing so on the source editor environment. Verbosmithie (talk) 02:47, 12 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

In your editing preference you turn on "Citation expander: automatically expand and format citations using Citation bot" and then you can use it. As for the "easy" way to use it, I often just put urls or doi's into refercence like <ref>http://www.jstor.org/stable/dsafdfd</ref><ref>10.234132/3241234</ref> and then run the bot. I should note that some jstors do not get recognized, and might require you to explicitly <ref>{{cite journal|jstor=34231234faddfasdfdas}}</ref> AManWithNoPlan (talk) 03:06, 12 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@AManWithNoPlan Thanks for the great tip.Verbosmithie (talk) 11:02, 13 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your edits with the Citation bot removed the italics around the publisher name for newspapers, is this appropriate?

Hello! I generally put the names of newspapers in italics inside a citation for the publisher, (publisher=name here) similar to how they are displayed in Wikipedia article titles: The New York Times. Isn't italics for the name of a newspaper the norm/standard here? I haven't found any policy which states this explicitly, maybe can you point me to one for some clarity? Thanks! ---Avatar317(talk) 23:35, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Could you point me to a specific example? AManWithNoPlan (talk) 23:40, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Are you sure you don’t mean the |work= and its aliases such as |newspaper=? Such as

"title". newspaper. publisher.

AManWithNoPlan (talk) 23:40, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

the publisher is ‘The New York Times Company’, while the newspaper is ‘The New York Times’. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 23:49, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I should have provided a diff for the edits, I had assumed it was happening on many articles. Here: [1] publisher=The San Diego Union-Tribune publisher=Forbes publisher=Salon publisher=San Jose Mercury News ---Avatar317(talk) 00:23, 28 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The error is the use of the wrong template parameter. Publishers are not italics. Perhaps I should add a list of things put in publisher= that should be in work/journal/magazine/newspaper= (Which is automatically made italics) and fix them AManWithNoPlan (talk) 00:36, 28 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Once this is merged in, the bot will start fixing the citations and converting select publishers to the work parameter, which automatically does italics. https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot/pull/1679 AManWithNoPlan (talk) 04:06, 28 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, that is what I was doing wrong, thank you for explaining that; I'll use those fields properly from now on. It would be good to improve the bot's behavior like that, because I would guess I haven't been the only one who mis-understood how to use those parameters. --Thanks!! ---Avatar317(talk) 05:09, 28 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

Why does Citation bot remove "publisher" and replace it with "work"?

Like with this edit on John Adams? That's about it. Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 12:10, 25 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

the magazine/newspaper/journal/work is the actual thing. The publisher is the corporation. So, for example a special commemorative child’s coloring book might have publisher=NYT, but it certainly does not have work=NYT. For example two, work=Life Magazine but publisher=Time/Life or something similar. Lastly when work=publisher, you don’t include publisher. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 12:38, 25 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!

Citation Tool Operator's Barnstar
Thanks so much for your tireless work cleaning up citations, and in particular for finding proper URLs to Proquest for List of Canadian comedians. I shall endeavour to follow your example in the future. – Reidgreg (talk) 22:41, 25 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, do you know if there is something extra that should be added like |url-access= in {{cite web}} or {{subscription required}} immediately following the citation template? – Reidgreg (talk) 22:41, 25 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

for your work on adding new IDs like SemScholar to citation bot. This will be most useful for the broader vision of the WikiCite project. – SJ + 15:26, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Minor edit

Please don't mark any edit as minor that might be disputed: A minor edit is one that the editor believes requires no review and could never be the subject of a dispute.

When you used Citation bot to make this edit to the Featured Article Oxygen toxicity, you changed {{cite web}} to {{cite document}}, which is not only disputable, but incorrect. The source is a web page, not a document or a journal. I hope that you can see the problems it can cause when marked as a minor edit, and that you will take care to avoid those problems in the future. --RexxS (talk) 19:15, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]