User talk:Bbb23

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You still around?

Looks like we may have a new BiKaz sock [1]. Doug Weller talk 07:08, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

@Doug Weller: Fortunately for Wikipedia but not for me, I have insomnia. Happy Holidays!--Bbb23 (talk) 08:05, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

And the same to you! Thanks for dealing with that. Doug Weller talk 08:14, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

Anti (album)

I think Anti (album) might need protection because multiple IP addresses are abusing it, but I am not 100% sure. CLCStudent (talk) 16:32, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

99%? :-)  Done.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:19, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

Favour

Hey Bbb23, since you seem to be around, could you have a look at the history of Naga, Cebu, and this section on the talk page. It seems pretty clear cut to me (note that Unbuttered Parsnip was recently blocked for 48 hours for 3RR, and looks to be doing it logged out to avoid a reblock). I have semiprotected the page, but would prefer to have a checkuser look into it. I would do it myself, but my CU bit is still in the mail I suppose. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 05:51, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Directed here from IRC request @Kelapstick: This falls into the duck category, and traditionally CU wouldn't be ran in this instance unless your looking at a range block. Also, we are unable to link account to IP publicly in most circumstances. I would go ahead with issuing any further blocks on the account. That said I did look at rangeblock feasibility...lets just stick with page protection for now. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 07:42, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Amanda. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 07:47, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

Coat of Many Colours

Hi! Re Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Coat_of_Many_Colours/Archive#20_December_2015 and this ISP Delta Quad blocked another ISP [2] has popped up to continue the conversation and same reversions. Pretty clearly all the same editor. No doubt the "head of department" will be along shortly. Cheers, Johnbod (talk) 11:10, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

@Johnbod: He sure does get around, doesn't he? Unfortunately, compared to you, Drmies, and others, I know so little about the subject area (if it were classical music, it would be easier). In any event, those particular IPs have been stopped, but he may find a new range. I've put Power of Women, but semi-protection might be a better way to go if this persists. Feel free to let me know if there's disruption I miss. Thanks and a belated Merry Christmas.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:53, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

Many thank! And a new one to keep an eye on - nothing bad so far, but knows a lot about Wiki-ways for someone with a dozen edits! Johnbod (talk) 19:09, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

@Johnbod: I noticed the user as Power of Women is on my watchlist now, but I too found the edit innocuous and didn't probe any further. Nonetheless, I checked now and have a question. Take a look at this. Isn't that the sort of thing CoMC would do?--Bbb23 (talk) 22:02, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

I'm not (fortunately) at all familiar with him, but I think sandbox drafts are typical. Johnbod (talk) 22:10, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

• Hi Johnbod, Bbb23 was referring to his tendency to start a user-space draft on a painting with a single line of information. Like this one, this one, and this one (differs a little because of the included references). We've seen the behaviour in several confirmed socks, so its considered circumstantial evidence in investigations into the editor. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:55, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

• Perfect, Chris, two blocks coming up.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:02, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

Ok, thanks both. Johnbod (talk) 12:42, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

This one is a possibility. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 13:33, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

@Xanthomelanoussprog: Indeed. Could you please go through the new pages and files he's created and tag them with WP:CSD#G5 if you think they should be deleted? I'd hate to delete them if they're actually helpful. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:36, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

There's two created articles, both of which seem okay. The files are probably okay as well (all paintings as far as I can tell, with one labelled as fair use). Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 14:47, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

Db-g5

Can I kindly ask why? --Vituzzu (talk) 14:29, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

It was originally created by Oldsettler and G5ed in April 2015. It was recreated recently by the IP. Do you know of a finding that the IP is a sock of Brunodam? I realize that you're far more familiar with this master than I am, so I'd sincerely like to understand your reasoning. If it makes sense to me, I'll delete the article. God knows I have no sympathy for socks and I frequently G5 pages, but I do apply the criterion fairly strictly.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:52, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

Leaving the brackets this one applies here too ^^

We generally are a bit reluctant to link users and IPs but well, it's sometimes needed.--Vituzzu (talk) 09:29, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

Ah, that's helpful. Deleted.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:40, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

No pb, since I'm not a local checkuser nor sysop and I don't want to publicize checks I take into account the need of further explanations. Have a nice day! --Vituzzu (talk) 19:26, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

Your warning

It is not my intention to edit war. However, User:XPrintGirl has repeatedly removed reliably sourced information I added to the Benedict Cumberbatch article, even after I requested that she desist. I have provided reliable sources to back up the edits I made, whereas XPrintGirl has so far only engaged in counterproductive revert warring. She has also now falsely accused me of making edits she made herself.[3][4] -OneLittleDragon (talk) 05:40, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

It doesn't matter what your intention is. What matters is what you do. You have been warned. I suggest you take the dispute to the article Talk page(s).--Bbb23 (talk) 05:44, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

What about what XPrintGirl? Repeatedly removing reliably sourced information from an article after being asked to stop is edit warring as I understand it. And then falsely accusing me of edits she herself made? This really isn't encouraging me to contribute here, because basically what's happening is I am being scolded for attempting to contribute reliably sourced information and then defend it from unwarranted/unjustified removal, while the actions of the person removing reliably sourced information without justification and throwing out a false accusation are being overlooked. I feel as if my hands are tied here. -OneLittleDragon (talk) 05:57, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

Your block of Alwayssmileguys

It might be worth removing talk page access to go with your CheckUser block. This edit added a claim that admins have ganged up to crucify him, a crucified Christ image, and what appears to be a a threat to continue socking. He also insists on blanking the sock block notice and unblock requests. Meters (talk) 05:44, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

The threat and crucifixion can remain, but the declines had to be restored per policy. I did that and revoked talk page access. I only came back on-wiki for a moment. Thanks for the heads up.--Bbb23 (talk) 06:13, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. The only change I made was to restore the declines. The rest was just fodder. I see someone else has reverted the whole page now. Meters (talk) 06:16, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, in this case it's not terribly important. The user's talk page access was revoked twice. The other administrator and I did it at almost the same time.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:49, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

May I ask are u the page admin??

Who are u?? The page. Admin ?? The person who owns this page or someone who thinks he owns my identity .. Bcos .. FYI .. I am Andria D'souza .. The Vj , Rj and actress Andria D'souza And If I see rubbish or wrong articles written about me I have the right to speak .. Or else .. I would claim a defamation case against you and Wikipedia for making my account without my knowledge or consent and for tampering or defaming me by writing n conveying wrong information to people reading about me

I have the right to speak about my image don't I?? Officialandria (talk) 10:11, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Please do not make legal threats on Wikipedia, as this is against policy. Thank you -- samtar ^whisper 10:34, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Happy Holidays

And thanks for all the good work you do here, Bbb. Best wishes from 99, 2601:188:0:ABE6:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:49, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, right back at you. And can you please tell me why it's in the high 30s here? That kind of cold belongs somewhere else in the country. Regards.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:41, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

I can shed no light on the whimsies of nature. After a run of ridiculously mild days here, we're at last getting something a bit more seasonable. But still it's remarkably nice--no snow on the ground, little in the forecast, and flowers have begun to pop. After last winter you can almost hear a collective sigh. Only four more months to go. 2601:188:0:ABE6:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:00, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanx!

For [5]. Kept several people busy :-) And Happy Holidays to you.Poepkop (talk) 15:58, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

PS And we have a follow up of the blocked one (same pages, similar pattern): [6]. Poepkop (talk) 15:58, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Ditto on the message, Bbb23. Thank you! Callmemirela 🍁 {Talk} ♑ 16:06, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Another portion of Thanx for you! Poepkop (talk) 16:15, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

You're welcome everyone. I have a headache. I feel like I'm swimming in weird edit patterns lately. Here's hoping things improve.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:39, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

"Swimming in weird edit patterns" sound cool ;-) I hope your will feell better soon, the vandals "know" it is Holiday season. And actually also a portion of Thank you to User:Callmemirela and User:Dat GuyWiki being busy working against that persistent guy/girl IP (Hope I am not forgetting someone?). So, would anyone care for mayonaise or ketchup with that? Poepkop (talk) 17:42, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

A previous sockpuppet block and a request.

A while ago, you indef blocked User:Peacebigline and User:Wikedpluri for using multiple accounts on Lee Man-hee and Shincheonji Church of Jesus the Temple of the Tabernacle of the Testimony - there is another account there now Special:Contributions/Robertseo, making the same edits. I was just going to file a sock puppet report, but I'm sure that even if they get blocked, they will come back with a string of new accounts, so I have a request. Could you put some form of protection on those articles, please? Even semi protected would help. Socks are less effective on articles that require confirmed accounts. Spacecowboy420 (talk) 06:22, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

I blocked Robertseo (talk · contribs · count). The account is not confirmed to the master but to one of the other accounts involved in the original SPI. I don't see how I can justify semi-protecting Lee Man-hee (the new account didn't edit the other article at all). There's been very little disruptive activity on the article. Roberseo's first edit was on December 16 after a gap of no edits by anyone since November 12. And then Robertseo made only two edits, the last of which was on December 20. I'm pretty liberal when it comes to semi-protecting articles that are being attacked by socks, but this one doesn't even meet my threshold.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:03, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the block, it's appreciated. (but probably not by Robertseo) I will keep an eye on the articles in question and revert when needed. There is another editor who drew my attention to the most recent edits, so there are more than just my eyes on the articles. Thanks again. Spacecowboy420 (talk) 06:34, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Simple wiki

Hi Bbb23, I wondered if you had seen this [7] on the simple wikipedia, I cannot rollback on the simple wiki (no meta rights). Maybe I could just delete but I do not know what you'd want (and if you actually created that page yourself or if IP did so for this purpose). Poepkop (talk) 15:07, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

I was aware of it but never looked at it. I rarely pay attention to my Talk pages on other wikis. Not to worry about it, but thanks for your concern.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:16, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

Okay. Poepkop (talk) 15:31, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

Benn Jordan sock

I don't really touch sock investigations but thought you might want to see Special:Contributions/88.194.149.117 in relation to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Musicchief007/Archive.  czar 22:14, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

Boy, they were on a tear. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:33, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

• Duck: Special:Contributions/106.186.123.246 czar 16:11, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

SPI

I normally have a huge admiration for the work you do but this kind of comment in answer to a perfectly reasonable technical question does not encourage me at all to report or block any future socks when when I come across them. I can understand now why so many people describe the SPI cabal as a Walled Garden. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 10:15, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

@Kudpung: I tried very hard to lighten the revert with that edit summary. Apparently I failed, at least with you. My revert had nothing to do with the discussion itself. It was purely a procedural revert. Generally, whenever you substantially alter the structure of an SPI, you make it difficult for the future of the case, including archiving the SPI, which is done by script. Sometimes, the script simply won't work. Many times I have had to fix the structure so the script will archive it properly. Perhaps I should have followed up with you on your Talk page. You had other options to achieve the same end. One was to reopen the SPI with the account you mentioned as the suspected puppet. You could then say in your comments anything you thought was pertinent, and clerks and administrators could respond normally. Another would be to initiate the discussion at the Talk page of someone familiar with the case (clerk or other administrator). I apologize for not explaining that to you.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:29, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

	Happy New Year!
	Best wishes for a wonderful 2016!---- WV ● ✉ ✓ 23:42, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year Bbb23!

Happy New Year!

Bbb23,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. Poepkop (talk) 13:54, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

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Thanks, and clarification request

I appreciate you closing the EW report against me as 'no violation', as well as semi-protecting the page. Do you think it would be appropriate for me to undo my precautionary self revert at this point?

I also want to question your statements that such reverts of IPs, while exempt from 1RR, are still subject to 3RR. This seems to contradict a recent ArbCom ruling that followed the block and subsequent unblock of Huldra for making 10 (!!) such reverts on As'ad AbuKhalil - see the ANI report and follow-on Request for clarification where the drafting arbitrator of the 30/500 restriction stated "As for how to enforce the new GP, I think, as the drafter who voted against it, that This prohibition may be enforced by reverts, page protections, blocks, the use of Pending Changes, and appropriate edit filters. pretty much gives any use a unlimited authority to revert someone who is violating it", and another arbitrator stated "Huldra's actions were not in violation of the restriction " (she reverted 10 times in rapid succession - see [8]) When Other Legends Are Forgotten (talk) 00:34, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

The request for clarification is still in progress, so in terms of what exists now, except in cases of vandalism, 3RR still applies. As for whether a revert by you would be "appropriate", I have no comment.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:33, 1 January 2016 (UTC)