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::::Thank you for sharing your concerns. [[User:IronBreww|IronBreww]] ([[User talk:IronBreww#top|talk]]) 03:17, 26 May 2010 (UTC) |
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:::::And thank you for being an open-minded editor. – <font face="Edwardian Script ITC" color="blue" size="5">Shannon Rose</font> <sup>[[User talk:Shannon Rose|Talk]]</sup> 18:06, 27 May 2010 (UTC) |
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[[Image:Information.svg|25px]] Please do not add unreferenced or [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|poorly referenced]] information, especially if controversial, to articles or any other page on Wikipedia about [[Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons|living persons]], as you did to [[:Eliseo Soriano]]. Thank you.<!-- Template:uw-biog2 --> [[User:Yworo|Yworo]] ([[User talk:Yworo|talk]]) 12:26, 6 June 2010 (UTC) |
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Web Archives as References
Hello there. I would like to ask if web archives can be used as "references" for an article. BTW, the web archive is an archive of a website (or a subpage of it) that has been already deleted. 180.191.63.230 (talk) 07:46, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
- And for what reason?...in my opinion, web archives should not be used if and only if, the offical site/subpage has been removed by the webmaster of the said site. Web archives can be used, however, only if the official site is currently down, under maintainance, etc. IronBreww (talk) 04:49, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
- Hi IronBreww, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and not a newspaper that only reports current events. Archived web pages like those in archive.org's database, are exact copies of web pages that either still exists or, for one reason or the other, have vanished. The contents of reliable websites are excellent sources, regardless if they are archived or not, to support both current and historical facts about the subject. In the case of the Interpol Red Notice on Eli Soriano, there was never a retraction, apology or further clarification issued by the Interpol saying something to the effect that Soriano is no longer wanted by the Philippine government for sex crimes or that they made a mistake or that he is no longer on their Red Notice. The fact that Eli Soriano's name has been in their website for a very long time as a wanted sex offender, which can be easily proven using Internet archives, can only be challenged by a formal declaration to the contrary. The fact that web pages used as references have retrieved + date shows that they do not need to be current unless intentionally overridden by more credible information. – Shannon Rose Talk 23:46, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you for sharing your concerns. IronBreww (talk) 03:17, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
- And thank you for being an open-minded editor. – Shannon Rose Talk 18:06, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you for sharing your concerns. IronBreww (talk) 03:17, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
- Hi IronBreww, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and not a newspaper that only reports current events. Archived web pages like those in archive.org's database, are exact copies of web pages that either still exists or, for one reason or the other, have vanished. The contents of reliable websites are excellent sources, regardless if they are archived or not, to support both current and historical facts about the subject. In the case of the Interpol Red Notice on Eli Soriano, there was never a retraction, apology or further clarification issued by the Interpol saying something to the effect that Soriano is no longer wanted by the Philippine government for sex crimes or that they made a mistake or that he is no longer on their Red Notice. The fact that Eli Soriano's name has been in their website for a very long time as a wanted sex offender, which can be easily proven using Internet archives, can only be challenged by a formal declaration to the contrary. The fact that web pages used as references have retrieved + date shows that they do not need to be current unless intentionally overridden by more credible information. – Shannon Rose Talk 23:46, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
- And for what reason?...in my opinion, web archives should not be used if and only if, the offical site/subpage has been removed by the webmaster of the said site. Web archives can be used, however, only if the official site is currently down, under maintainance, etc. IronBreww (talk) 04:49, 18 May 2010 (UTC)