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Welcome

Welcome!

Hello, Floquenbeam, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{helpme}} before the question. Again, welcome! Longhair\^talk 06:13, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RE: WP:MED

Haha no worries, I figured it was said in a light-hearted fashion. Glad I could help. —Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 21:42, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

It was so very kind of you to post your note at WP:MED. Direct, heartfelt feedback is hard to come by on Wikipedia, which makes it all the more meaningful on the rare occasions it does happen. It's so rewarding to hear that our work makes a difference. Maralia (talk) 21:47, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your thank you of my thank you :) Yes, I've noticed most feedback around here is skewed towards the negative, I'm glad you found it rewarding. --Floquenbeam (talk) 22:03, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, thank you for your kind words, Floquenbeam. Axl ¤ [Talk] 22:07, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Animal Farm

I dunno why I have this on my watch list. It must be a contender for one of the most vandalised articles on Wikipedia. Thanks for fixing it.

SimonTrew (talk) 00:51, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well I do know, I love Orwell. But I have the precious advantage of having read everything he wrote, rather than just vandalise it. SimonTrew (talk) 00:52, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Simon, glad to help. It's on my watchlist because I fixed a dablink on it once. I notice it does get hit a lot, but I edit infrequently enough that someone else almost always gets to it first. This time I just happened to have checked my watchlist 1 minute after they vandalized, and did the honors myself.

The only Orwell I've read is 1984; Animal Farm is one of those books I've felt I should read for years, but I never get around to it. Someday. --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:32, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure what a dablink is. I am having so much fun (and taking so much time) editing Wikipedia! Mostly for the good I hope. You must read Animal Farm you could read it in an evening it is very short. I think in a sense it is the essential Orwell, it condenses all his opinions in a very short space. Which is, I hope, what we try to do here. Pascal wrote to his cousin "I am sorry this letter is longer, but I have not had time to make it shorter".

Best wishes SimonTrew (talk) 22:22, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"RECOMMEND READ ANIMAL FARM" Heh, excellent judge of character that I am, I somehow knew you were going to say that. Yes, I will, it is on my list.

A dablink is shorthand for links to disambiguation pages. I like fixing them (and reading the articles I run across while I'm fixing them), which is how I came across Animal Farm. Anyway, real life is calling, I'm off. Cheers. --Floquenbeam (talk) 22:35, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You were wrong. I misspelt "Reccommend". But read it, I think you would enjoy it. Or if not, it is not War and Peace and is easily flushed down the toilet SimonTrew (talk) 22:55, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sheesh I was so scared losing it but it only took me 6 minutes to get it back together just panicked. Perversely, the one edit I missed was the one I was trying to make i.e. the Hanon chap. That is I think three times now he has vandalised it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by SimonTrew (talk • contribs)

Rollback

I have granted rollback rights to your account; the reason for this is that after a review of some of your contributions, I believe I can trust you to use rollback correctly by using it for its intended usage of reverting vandalism, and that you will not abuse it by reverting good-faith edits or to revert-war. For information on rollback, see Wikipedia:New admin school/Rollback and Wikipedia:Rollback feature. If you do not want rollback, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Good luck and thanks. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 21:56, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well that was certainly fast! Thanks much. --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:58, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No worries. Thanks for the cookie! Good luck with the new tool, –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 22:13, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(sotto voce) FYI: I recently saw a good rollbacker (who is an admin! on Dutch Wikipedia) get stripped of his bit, accused of being a sockpuppet, and other humiliations ... because he made a judgment call that something was vandalism that was something else ... and was RIPPED TO SHREDS (amidst all kinds of confusion) for 3RR. (NOTE: If you ever use Huggle, the startup screen has a new little warning at the bottom, that I put there, after witnessing the preceding). I.E., Don't forget 3RR. I could have made the same mistake as that editor. You'd think all your hard work would earn you "the benefit of the doubt." Nope. Just keep that in mind. (No reply necessary)
-- Proofreader77 (talk) 03:55, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

re iambic ... etc :)

Re versification, many thanks. :)

Re the rest. There is more to it than it seems, but no need for you to worry about it, fellow-rollbacker. :) Go write a sonnet. LOL Cheers.

Hmmm, actually I think I understand everything that's going on, but the discussion looks particularly well attended by many people on multiple pages, so I won't worry my pretty little head about it. --Floquenbeam (talk) 20:53, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No you don't! LOL (I'm too mysterious for that. I practice.)
--Proofreader77 (talk) 03:46, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. Re the continuing motif of disambig-admins :) See the sonnets User:Proofreader77/American_warning
Proofreader77 (talk) 12:55, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, so it wasn't for my benefit after all! :) --Floquenbeam (talk) 20:53, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't have started sonnetizing so soon if not for you.
--Proofreader77 (talk) 03:46, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(oops, forgot to watch your page for a reply)

Must have been busy doing something mysterious. :) Proofreader77 (talk) 03:46, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You beat me to it

I went to the ban request page to ban X Kyle x09, and found you'd already been there. Good one. - Denimadept (talk) 17:09, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm online infrequently enough that someone else usually gets to it before me; I just happened to open my watchlist at the right time, I guess. Cheers. --Floquenbeam (talk) 20:53, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:New contributors' help page‎

No problem, I was just answering the easy ones! You guys got the rest. – ukexpat (talk) 22:08, 5 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Just wanted to say thanks for welcoming me! You're the first one to say anything/reply/acknowledge my existence, so I wanted to say hi. Stormcloud22 (talk) 02:38, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Glad to. I hope you find something that interests you. If you have any questions, let me (or, really, pretty much anyone) know. --Floquenbeam (talk) 02:42, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ThankSpam

My RfA

Thank you for participating in my "RecFA", which passed with a final tally of 153/39/22. There were issues raised regarding my adminship that I intend to cogitate upon, but I am grateful for the very many supportive comments I received and for the efforts of certain editors (Ceoil, Noroton and Lar especially) in responding to some issues. I wish to note how humbled I was when I read Buster7's support comment, although a fair majority gave me great pleasure. I would also note those whose opposes or neutral were based in process concerns and who otherwise commented kindly in regard to my record.
I recognise that the process itself was unusual, and the format was generally considered questionable - and I accept that I was mistaken in my perception of how it would be received - but I am particularly grateful for those whose opposes and neutrals were based in perceptions of how I was not performing to the standards expected of an administrator. As much as the support I received, those comments are hopefully going to allow me to be a better contributor to the project. Thank you. Very much. LessHeard vanU (talk) 15:35, 24 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

~~~~~

Re

No problems. Thanks! Renaissancee (talk) 21:36, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You're quite welcome. ref: [1] --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:45, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Merciless berating

Sadly everything looks ok over at the AfD. I'll have to save the merciless berating for next time ;-) Bigger digger (talk) 21:54, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I'm issuing one merciless berating rain check. Use before the end of the season. --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:55, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, speedy reply, I got an edit conflict trying to move this conversation into the related heading above... Just so we're all clear on this, when does the season end? I might just see if I can add your Special:Contributions page to my watchlist so I don't miss out on the opportunity. Bigger digger (talk) 21:57, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

<merciless berating> You can't add Special:Contribs to a watchlist. Noob. :) </merciless berating> Your easiest approach would be to watchlist my talk page instead, and pile on when someone else notices a mistake. The season coincides with the US baseball season, so you've got plenty of time to return the favor. --Floquenbeam (talk) 22:05, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well I can add it to an RSS feed, so now you're in trouble... And I'll avoid the merciless berating for the CSD malarkey below (I note Floq 0 - 1 BackslashForwardslash on your contribs) because I have to go and find out when the baseball season ends. I'm good on NFL, but have more than enough cricket which means I can avoid baseball ;-) Bigger digger (talk) 23:52, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm ashamed to admit I'm technologically challenged enough that I couldn't add something to an RSS feed if my life depended on it. Anyway, stalk me if you must, I'm sure I could use someone to keep me honest. Baseball season ends in October; I guess I was a little US-centric there. Now, I'm off to enjoy the rest of the weekend. Cheers. --Floquenbeam (talk) 22:16, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Gah! I got your name wrong, sorry! I think that must entitle you to some more berating... Bibber dibber (talk) 22:33, 7 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nah, I'll save the berating for later. If I save up five of them, it entitles me to a free penalty-free personal attack. --Floquenbeam (talk) 22:57, 7 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ooh, a personal attack, sounds interesting. Go on, ridicule the size of my back hoe, I dare ya! Oh, but whilst merciless berating doesn't seem to have any policies, you might want to read WP:NPA ;-) Bigger digger (talk) 10:07, 8 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

speedy deletion...

an album is not notable merely because the band has a wikipedia page. in fact, their page also has been tagged. Wikiwikikid (talk) 22:30, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not saying the album is definitely notable, I'm saying it shouldn't be speedily deleted. Read WP:CSD#A9 again; if the artist has an article, A9 doesn't apply. You're more than welcome to take it to AFD if you want to. Also, I've removed the tag you put on the band's page too. Four albums on a notable independent label means A7 doesn't apply; see WP:BAND.

Finally, per WP:CSD, if someone disputes a CSD tagging, you are not supposed to re-add the tag. Please remove your re-tagging. If you disagree, take the articles to AFD; you can probably nominate them as a group, rather than individually. --Floquenbeam (talk) 22:35, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

you are incorrect. you can't remove the tag, you have to respond with a hangon tag... as for A9, your link proves your ignorance of the subject. "An article about a musical recording that does not indicate why its subject is important or significant and where the artist's article does not exist. This is distinct from questions of verifiability and reliability of sources, and is a lower standard than notability. This criterion does not apply to other forms of creative media, products, or any other types of articles."

-no where does it say that an album from a wiki'd artist is not subject to this. basically, you lied. Wikiwikikid (talk) 04:20, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wikiwikikid, I don't understand your attitude. The piece you quoted from A7 requires 1. No implication of importance and 2. No artist page. There is an artist page and the external links suggest it might have some merit. Send it to AfD and I'll even have a deeper look, it could well be suitable for deletion but you are not going about it the right way, and are acting most uncivily in accusing a fellow editor of lying. Please assume good faith. Bigger digger (talk) 10:00, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Furthermore Wikiwikikid, I see from your talk page history that you have been told before about speedying long-existing articles and told that AfD is a more suitable process. That also applies here. Bigger digger (talk) 10:06, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Wikiwikikid,

I don't really understand the aggression, but to answer your questions:

No, I don't have to use a {{hangon}} tag; that's only for the creator of the article. I have never even edited any of those articles, much less start them (Nor am I a fan; indeed, it's quite likely that I would truly hate listening to their music) . If I disagree, I can just remove the tag. You might want to re-read the tag; it says it right on there.
As Bigger digger says, per the wording of A9 which you've quoted above, you can't use it if there is either an assertion of significance or the artist has an article.
Speedy deletion is for articles where there is unlikely to be disagreement about its deletion (except, perhaps, for its author). There are two ways you can know that AFD is more appropriate: (a) The article is long-standing, and has a lot of contributors, many of whom you can assume would dispute the deletion, and (b) someone (in this case, me) disputes it by removing the tag.
From my review, I'm pretty sure the band in notable enough for an article. I'm not sure about the albums. The way to get consensus about this, of course, is to take it to AFD. If you need help creating an AFD page, ask me, or anyone else, for help.
Free advice: you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. You also feel less silly when it turns out you're wrong about something when you haven't called the person who was correct "ignorant" or even worse, say they were "lying". That ain't the way to win friends and influence people. --Floquenbeam (talk) 22:11, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Response

Hi I have responded to your question at WP:WQA.TruHeir (talk) 02:16, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Floquenbeam. Thanks for the warning. My bad totally on that one. Catiline63 (talk) 10:14, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

test

Floquenbeam (talk) 04:01, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cor, first it was punch cards and Fortran, now it's editing wikipedia with your phone. Watch out MySpace ;-) Bigger digger (talk) 09:29, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Heh. New phone, with lots of bells and whistles I'm trying out. Took me 15 minutes to make that edit last night, and failed at deleting it, so I think that probably won't be my primary editing mode. I'm trying, against my natural instincts and abilities, to drag myself into the 21st Century. I've never even texted anyone yet, so I think MySpace and Facebook are safe for another few years, at least. --Floquenbeam (talk) 11:17, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, running with the phone before being able to walk? Wikipedia editing before text messaging? It's good that MySpace et al have sufficient warning to prepare their defences... Bigger digger (talk) 12:04, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

User page

Thanks very much for that!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eldumpo (talk • contribs) 17:41, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

note to self for posterity: replied on their talk: [2].

Main page errors

Thanks so much, I couldn't have asked for a faster response and a move of my post there. Unfortunately it looks like nobody has been at that page to make this change in the past hour and a half or so...but at least I tried, and I'm sure someone will get around to it. Thanks again for the quick response, and the message. Abrazame (talk) 02:30, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

note to self for posterity: replied on their talk: [3].

Best article of the day

You have just written the best article in Wikipedia today. I'm serious! It will have widespread readership for decades to come. (WP:Padlock)

User F203 (talk) 16:26, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps someday I'll be able to work it up to FA status. Glad you think it's useful. Cheers. --Floquenbeam (talk) 16:33, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

		The Barnstar of Peace
		Thank you for your calm, rational, and entirely helpful mediation of the issue and related conflict I brought to the administrators' noticeboard today. –xeno^talk 17:43, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Xeno, for my first barnstar! Glad I could be of service. Martti Ahtisaari, watch your back; I'm catching up fast. --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:43, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

request

Look! Over there! An encyclopedia waiting to be edited! --Floquenbeam (talk) 16:53, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

oh, no! please do not request for them to not talk to me anymore! i rather enjoy it, actually. also, what policy have i violated by talking to them? not civility policies. not personal attack policies. i've not commented on the editor, just the edits. the editor could certainly use some encouragement towards using proper grammar and spelling. however, i was merely suggesting that she correct her own grammar/spelling before attacking others for the same indiscretion. have a great day ;-)... Wikiwikikid (talk) 04:51, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the first thing I noticed is you calling them "buddy" after being asked not to. The second thing is, you've beaten the spelling thing into the ground now. The third thing is, they seemed to be getting increasingly upset, so disengagement is needed. A lot of this is baiting, if we're being honest, and I'm sure you know that. They've been acting childish too, so it's certainly not all one sided, and indeed they have bigger issues that I guess I'll have to deal with. But you'll be accomplishing nothing that benefits the encyclopedia by further engagement with them. --Floquenbeam (talk) 17:17, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

look, i'll explain to you like i explained to m####, who i consider my "buddy" is my business. not yours, not theirs, even! she may not consider me her buddy, but i definitely consider her mine! i think the terrible quality of this user's edits are detrimental to the encyclopedia, so if i can even distract them, i feel i'm making a significant contribution. i've not spoken to her since you requested i not do so, but i respectfully disagree with your opinion on the value of the conversations. Wikiwikikid (talk) 05:21, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I could not care less who you "think" of as your buddy. When someone says they don't want to be "called" your buddy, a mature person would honor the request. --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:20, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If the user does not want you to be her buddy then it's her asking you not to say you are her buddy. She and I have worked together in the past. <some personal stuff redacted> Thanks for your time. Feel free to leave me a message. --MVHS2009 (talk) 20:47, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think taking some time off is wise. Wikipedia is a volunteer project, no sense doing something if it causes you stress. Good luck to her. I'll keep an eye on your contributions as well, to make sure her stress doesn't rub off on you. --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:20, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

thank you. I am not sure when she will be back. --MVHS2009 (talk) 22:11, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Saying things that are troubled

If I can't say things nice I won't talked to Wikikikid at all. I have never acted his or her edits, like he has too me. I am going to take a couple of weeks to get my life back and under my control or god's control. I will be back by July 18, 2009. Take Care --M42380 (talk) 04:39, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Some time off would be good. Even better if you don't just switch to another account. --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:20, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

what are you talking about? I am not user:M42380. --MVHS2009 (talk) 00:49, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

May I say laugh out loud to this? Since it's not the same person...who graduated the same year from the same school with the exact same article interests/contribs. Oh man. Nice. HAHAHAHA! Wikiwikikid (talk) 02:39, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

who said that I graduated the same year? By the way, She graduated from Skyview not Mountain View High School. --MVHS2009 (talk) 03:49, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Errr, because her User Page says she graduated from MVHS this year (2009). Brilliant! Wikiwikikid (talk) 04:14, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wikiwikikid comment

I am thankful for Floquenbeam's oversight <redacted by Floq; I read this part too, but it's doing no one any good>. Wikiwikikid (talk) 05:23, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

User page

I've indef semi'd your userpage, but feel free to let me know if you'd rather I lower it. –xeno^talk 21:32, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Now if you could just do something about this person leaving messages in the middle of my talk page, instead of down at the bottom... :) Cheers. --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:52, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

lol. I try to find tangetially related threads if it's just gunna be a one-off =) –xeno^talk 21:55, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Grief porn

Thanks for contributing, I replied to your comment there. Tim Vickers (talk) 22:39, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Me too, got it on my watchlist. Thanks. --Floquenbeam (talk) 22:57, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Issue Resolved

Thanks for removing the WP:AIV reports temporarily. I haven't investigated the issue too closely, but it looks like a section of the instructions on the page was removed. I think I've fixed it. alphachimp 00:48, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, it looks like you fixed it, Thank you. Although a little part of me is disappointed, in a way. I was going to WP:CHU to change my name to FloquenBOT. Or WP:BAG, not sure which would have been more appropriate. --Floquenbeam (talk) 00:50, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Follow your heart :) alphachimp 01:02, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Removed speedy

I noticed you removed my Speedy Delete request on Talk:Anavil Brahmins. Did you not notice I had instead fixed the only link to Anavil Brahmins, in the Jāti article? Now Anavil Brahmins is not linked to from anywhere. Astronaut (talk) 00:48, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Astronaut,

No, I hadn't noticed that, but it's still a reasonable redirect. Now someone will go directly to the right page if they type "Anavil Brahmins" in the search box. Remember, WP:redirects are cheap. The redirect isn't hurting anything, and might help someone someday. And your fix to the link in Jāti was useful too, so it's win-win. --Floquenbeam (talk) 02:57, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

With it only being used once, I thought it was improbable, but you are right someone could put the plural in the search box. I agree win-win. Thanks. Astronaut (talk) 03:51, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re:LA family

No problem. By the way, I like your wikisloth template. I am going to have to add it onto my page. --Ted87 (talk) 01:01, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Can't even remember where I stole it from (and it was only like a week ago!). Enjoy it. --Floquenbeam (talk) 02:57, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re: ArbCom accounts

Sure, that would be a great idea. I think I still have the passwords, but unfortunately I'm temporarily without regular Internet access, so it might take a few days till I can try to regain access. I'll let you know. szyslak (t) 00:12, 19 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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 No problem. By the way, I like your wikisloth template. I am going to have to add it onto my page. --[[User:Ted87|Ted87]] ([[User talk:Ted87|talk]]) 01:01, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 :Can't even remember where I stole it from (and it was only like a week ago!). Enjoy it. --[[User:Floquenbeam|Floquenbeam]] ([[User talk:Floquenbeam#top|talk]]) 02:57, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
+== Re: ArbCom accounts ==
+Sure, that would be a great idea. I think I still have the passwords, but unfortunately I'm temporarily without regular Internet access, so it might take a few days till I can try to regain access. I'll let you know. <font color="green">[[User:Szyslak|szyslak]]</font> (<font color="green">[[User talk:Szyslak|t]]</font>) 00:12, 19 July 2009 (UTC)