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Re: What is this?

To answer your question: that's pure nonsence. It's saying something about "sexual custom where one partner is pretending to be an animal, and the other one is a hunter". "Tražilica", on the other hand means "search engine". Tried to google on "Pipiemija", but got only links to this page. The author of this article has only that one edit. Therefore, I find the article not salvageable and I'm pretty sure I won't do anything wrong by deleting it... there, I deleted it. --Dijxtra 11:32, 14 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Np, glad I could help. --Dijxtra 11:37, 14 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Judge Roberts

The joke was mine actually. Glad you liked it! It was so long ago I forgot all about it to be honest :) Borisblue 04:42, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

First Clinical Syndrome

I have added few text from the First Clinical Syndrome into the Medical Student SyndromeDoctor Bruno 15:53, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!

Thank you for going through "my" articles fixing the mistakes - and for the interlanguage links on my page! I didn't know this was possible, and probably wouldn't ever find out if it weren't for you :) Jashiin 13:39, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Accessibility problems of Wikipedia

Note: Discussion moved to Wikipedia talk:Accessibility#Accessibility problems of Wikipedia.

Elevators Edition

I noticed you made a change to the "Elevator" page in Wikipedia. You inserted "install a new elevator" instead of new piston.

I have worked as an Elevator Mechanic for many years. You do not modernize a elevator just because the old cynlinder is bad. You replace the cynlinder (most often referred to, as a jack) with a new one, and line it with a large PVC piping. You then install a new polished steel piston (free from straches), along with new packing around the piston. All this can be done without replacing the elevator.

Modernizing an elevator is a very large task, and just because a jack went bad doesn't force the owner of the elevator to modernize it, completly. A Modenization, as discussed, in the talk section of elevators, consists of replacing the Controls, Fixtures (including buttons, COP panel, hall signals, car signals), wiring, hoistway switches, selector unit, sometimes the motor and generator set.

Please reply to me, by leaving a comment on the discussion page for elevators, Thank You.

I have knowledge on Elevators and Escalators, I've been in the field for many years, any questions, just ask. Sorry I have not logged into my wiki account.

Thanks for changing it back Graham. If you have any questions, my username is jpalnow.

Richard Clayderman

The same content that was at my talk page was also posted to Talk:Richard Clayderman #WRONG ARTICLE. I feel that it's more relevant there, so I have chosen not to keep a copy here. Graham talk 03:49, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

email

Dear Graham,

Thanks for your reply, and for your useful guidance about the editing ways in wikipedia.

I thought expedient to delete my last message in here, as it was not necessary to be viewable in public. For my next messages, I prefer to send them to your email, if possible. Please leave your email address here (or please email to me to get your email address... my email address is: [email protected] ).

Thanks in advance.

Mickaeel Herbertian

--Dreamy piano 01:42, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:How to fix bunched up edit links

Thanks for the copyedit; I can't believe I let these slip. --cesarb 15:37, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

JAWS behavior

Note: Discussion moved to Wikipedia talk:Accessibility#JAWS behavior.

OK. Would you mind if I move this discussion to the Wikipedia talk:Accessibility page? If you still watch that page in the future I will post this type of questions there. PS: Go Australia! :-) --surueña 10:19, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, I wouldn't mind. I'm still watching the wikipedia talk:accessibility page, and I'll try to answer questions there if I can. And yes, I hope Australia gets a reasonable result. Graham talk 10:24, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

LOL NLVE

Give a guy a chance to change his curly brackets to square brakets lol. You were on that redirect before I could push edit. XD --Monotonehell 12:41, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ROFL Good work that man! --Monotonehell 12:45, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My 2a page

Hi Graham - Thx for fixing that dumb typo on the page. Tony 15:20, 20 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks, but i'd like to see where i've been experimenting?/editing that's been of offense...(87.74.34.16 02:43, 23 July 2006 (UTC))[reply]

Oh, ok... just got confused when it came up as a new message, dynamic IPs can be great fun... {87.74.34.16 04:10, 23 July 2006 (UTC)}[reply]

lol

Thanks --mboverload @ 08:43, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No problems; spelling mistakes happen to all of us. Graham talk 08:44, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Vurtne

I left a {{nn-warn}} on the talk page for Pepso321 (talk · contribs). You might consider using this (or {{nn-notice}} if the article has already been speedied) when tagging the articles of new editors. Of course, many people don't, it all depends on preference and whether you interpret the contribution as good faith or not. Feel free to reply on this page; I'll see it. BigNate37_(T) 10:03, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I use the deletion warning templates sometimes when I think the contribution is in good faith - or a good article could come out of it, which happens sometimes with copyvios that meet the speedy deletion criteria. Graham talk 10:56, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bitch, bitch, gripe, sigh!

re: User:Ste4k/VER Template:IAhem!...

see Wrong number which led to

in re: User:Ste4k/VER

Thanks for your note regarding this, but I think it's possible you meant it for User:Graham87, not me? I don't recall being involved in any such discussion. --Grahamtalk/mail/E 05:23, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

In closing, T'would be nice if your Stealthed '87' were part of your sig... (says the pot calling the kettle...) <g> Cheers! // FrankB 14:34, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

from another Graham!

Hey there! Just wanted to let you know that I've been getting some of your messages... one regarding User:Ste4k/VER (see my talk page); and another some time ago via e-mail, about a car article you reverted. (I didn't make the connection at the time and so deleted the e-mail.) It doesn't bother me that much, but you might consider revising your signature to include the "87" to allay the confusion. Or, now that I've figured this out, I can just forward things to you. Cheers! --Graham^talk/mail/e 20:48, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

the car thing

It was a sports car with a numerical name of some sort; the user (a new user, I think) had posted a bunch of pictures of what appeared to be his own car, with the license plate poorly obscured with a photo editing program of some sort. Your revert was quite correct, as I recall... I wouldn't worry about it. --Graham^talk/mail/e 10:33, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nah, it was something about a specific car model. It was a nice article that somebody had slapped a superfluous picture of their own car smack in the middle of. --Graham^talk/mail/e 07:30, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Theta Beta Potata PUNK HOUSE Deletion Review

Theta Beta Potata

This article was first started by me and was deleted back in May '06. I was reading the punk house article and saw that the link for the TBP article was no longer red so I clicked on it and there was an article back up, started by another user. I dont know who started it because, it was deleted soon after I saw it. The decision made in the "Article for Deletion" debate should be reconsidered. The article is about a punk house not a fratenal organization. It seems that the debate, run by User:ChrisB and results were reported by User:Mailer Diablo. I will post this on their talk pages. This is the first time I have requested a deletion review so please let me know what else I need to do. If there is anything. I am on wikipedia frequently and I want to learn. Thanks. Xsxex 16:28, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Noël Godin

Just to let you know, I didn't remove this article from WP:UA, I just moved it down a bit to alphabetise it. If we're going by last name though, then go ahead and move it back to where it was. Thanks. 69.40.244.48 15:13, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Accessibility question

Hi - Can you confirm that embedding HTML breaks in side by side cells within a single row in a table is problematic from an accessibility viewpoint? I recently changed the country infobox to avoid this sort of construct and have now embarked on a project to similarly change the city infobox. My understanding is that HTML tables are read row by row, cell by cell, so embedded breaks that are meant to create additional "rows" within a single HTML row don't affect the audible presentation from a screen reader. This will be a reasonably large effort in the city infobox case, since there are a little more than 2000 references to this template with probably about half using this sort of technique. I'm looking for a bot that might be able to fix these, but for the time being I'm using a manual approach. If you could confirm that this is indeed an issue I'd appreciate it. Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 17:00, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Which pages have this problem? I checked Georgia (country), Abu Dhabi and Austin, Texas and they all read fine with JAWS. Graham87 08:54, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The references are in the process of being changed, but Walls, Mississippi currently exhibits this issue. The construct is like the following:

Country
State
County

United States
Mississippi
DeSoto

which looks like the following table that actually has three rows

Country	United States
State	Mississippi
County	DeSoto

The question is whether these tables are presented differently in JAWS? My suspicion is the first is presented as "Country State County, United States Mississippi DeSoto", while the second is "Country United States, State Mississippi, County DeSoto" (which is a better match for the visual appearance). Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 16:15, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In the Georgia (country) article, the Government section of the infobox (following "official language, Georgian") is presented like this. The type of government, president, and prime minister are in the same row in the HTML table. There are other problems with this particular example, but the visual presentation is meant to show these as three separate rows, with the content "Government Republic, President Mikheil Saakashvili, Prime Minister Zurab Noghaideli". Is this the presentation using JAWS, or is it "Government President Prime Minister, Republic Mikheil Saakashvili Zurab Noghaideli"? -- Rick Block (talk) 16:32, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yikes! Yes I see the problem now. The tables with the line breaks read exactly as you said they would with JAWS, and row and column navigation doesn't work with them. However the second table reads fine here because it uses standard row separators. So line breaks imbedded in tables are definitely not a good idea with screen readers. Graham87 10:00, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much. The country articles that use the standard template are all fixed (Georgia (country) does not use the standard template). The city articles using the standard template are being fixed. The articles about US States have all been fixed. I'll create a project to find and stamp out this anti-accessible usage pattern. -- Rick Block (talk) 13:20, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

AntiVandalBot revert

Just thought you might find it funny that an anonymous IP managed to get the text removed [1] while we were warned. =) -- Gogo Dodo 17:12, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Crawford

Hello,

Please may i ask whether you removed the folowing from the Michael Crawford page? If so, why?

By watching several of Michael Crawfords Videos, it can be seen that the singer/actor is left handed, this is particularly noitceable in Some Mothers Do 'Ave 'Em when you see the character Frank Spencer writing.

Your more experienced then me, i'm not being rude or anything, i'm just wondering why it has been removed, if you did so.

Thank you.

'tomr2006'

Tom 21:06, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Virus Removal

As you have put this note up on the page, I can only assume that you have an ulterior motive. Wallie 10:27, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Having read your remarks, now I am sure you have an ulterior motive. Wallie 10:34, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have put a new article on what I believe is an important topic. You are virilent in wanting it deleted. This has nothing to do with any rules. I really suspect your motives. Wallie 10:46, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It is as I suspected. Do you work for an Anti-Virus Software Company? Wallie 11:18, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The whole tone of what you are saying is that only experts (and I guess you think you are one) should comment in this area. Most people for your information do not want to go out and buy Spyware and Anti-Virus Software. They simply want to get rid of the virus. That is one thing I do know. Professionals go directly into the computer and delete the entries manually. Automated methods can delete harmlees files and leave the bad ones behind. I have nothing against Anti-Virus Companies personally, other than they are often ineffective, and use a scattergun approach. I think that the topic is very important, and that you are treating me as if I am a vandal, and by doing this you are actual being a vandal (by deleting what I am saying). Wallie 11:34, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Graham, I am not trying to be clever here. I really want this article to remain, as I am so many others are affected by viruses. Naturally the Anti-Virus software is one of the solutions, and should be mentioned. I intended to do this anyway. I my specific case, I got infected by a Spyware virus. I tried all sorts of software, download, patches etc. Some did more damaged. I eventually found all the software attached to the virus and manually deleted it. Now the virus is gone. Wallie 11:45, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The how-to comment in the guidelines is directed at a particular types of silly how-to guides, like how-to chat up a girls etc. You just need to see the link to the Wiki how-to, to see what is in there. Anyway, these are just guidelines. I would like to put the stuff in Wiki books, but these are to technical in nature. Also, main stream encyclopedias have how-to articles, and I think you realise that. As for being NPOV, this is really directed at political discussions and the word approach is probably better here. It is hardly POV that viruses can be deleted, it it? Wallie 11:54, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is the problem, the viruses are given names, and everyone is confused. The virus was all in one folder iCodecPack, and it had two execs, pmmon.exe and pmsngr.exe. Also the virus was giving popup screens to pourchase anti-virus software and kept flashing a yellow triangle with an exclamation mark. I could not delete the execs or the folder either. However, I found a way. The trick is to go into the computer's safe mode and then delete it. That is what I want to explain in tnis article. There should be a list if keywords, like pmmon.exe. I think that people should know how to remedy specific attacks in Wikipedia. I think it is really important. That's why I am taking so much time out to discuss it. Thanks. Wallie 12:03, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

List of high schools in Illinois

Can you explain to me why having the Table of Contents on the right is an accessibity issue? I think having the TOC on the right looks much better in that article (rather than have to scroll down 103 lines to reach the beginning of the text). Thanks. -- DS1953 ^talk 18:27, 25 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I see your reasoning, but please take a look at this article again and see if you don't agree that the change you made creates a much more unfriendly article for the majority of readers for the benefit of a relatively small group (at the present time I assume that most people access the site via a normal web browser). I agree that we shouldn't change the TOC location for no good reason, but I think this article has a very good reason. -- DS1953 ^talk 14:42, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks. I didn't understand that you had made another edit and hadn't looked at the page again. I agree it is fine now. -- DS1953 ^talk 16:41, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

re

Sure, I'll get right on it. Usually when an unregistered user has that many edits, it's not one person doing the editing. AOL uses a proxy server that makes it so many editors come from the same ip address at differing but closely related times (dynamic). This is most likely the case.

But because you asked, here's the text (third edit by Anders Törlind):

Hi there! [[Wikipedia:Welcome newcomers|welcome]] to the 'pedia! Thanx for covering for my (and others) many grammatical and spelling errors, that really helps the credibility of the texts.
Anyways, hope you [[wikipedians|stay]] and perhaps even get a real username? ;-)

It's just a typical welcome message, which (s)he apparently manually created. Mushroom got rid of it with the comment "This should go to the user page". Hope this clears things up for ya, and happy editing. -Mysekurity 03:49, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I do recall an anon a year or so back who had about 500 edits under his/her belt (static ip). Hard to tell anyway. Hope ya learned something, Mysekurity 04:07, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Richard Cummings

Hi mate I know you are doing good work in regulation deletions probably my fault as I didn't use the in use tag but try not to be so hasty in deletion. Surely you saw I had initally set up the outside link. I lost my work than because of edit conflict. In the future remember my identity and any work I do is useful. I am not one of the crappy people who start a page with just a word and leave it Ernst Stavro Blofeld 12:39, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

HI thanks no you are right disamb is not for external links but I only set it up to retrieve the list. And absolutely only two actors out of that list are worthy of an article I did set it up for the silent actor article which I will get around to. The others are listed for reference purposes only. You weren't to know of my great work on wikipedia. I think it is good anyway that you are on the ball in trying to cut out the crap. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 15:17, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

NavigationBar

Hi - I've created a navigational template that for visual browsers presents a long list of items with a scroll bar. Can you please check it out and let me know if it causes any problems when used with JAWS? The template is template:NavigationBar, used by template:Places in Bedfordshire. An article using the Bedfordshire template is Arlesey. Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 17:58, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The navigation bar itself reads fine with JAWS. My only problem is that it's hard to exit with the quick navigation keys (next element, end of element, different/same element ETC) because it's not an html list or table. Therefore, I think it should be the last real text in an article. Sometimes the geographical coordinates are below the navbar and it's hard to scroll down below the navbar. Graham87 02:33, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting. Thanks very much for checking it out. The whole point is easier navigation so it's really not acceptable for this to cause navigation issues with JAWS. I've tried a version that's simply a modification to template:NavigationBox which uses a table, but couldn't get it to work with Internet Explorer (IE seems to be too stupid to be able to figure out how to resolve the field width). Given that IE is the predominantly used visual browser at this point, I think having it not work for IE is not an option. I'm a little surprised JAWS doesn't offer next element navigation based on DIV elements. I suspect DIV-based CSS formatting will become more and more common. In any event, I will not encourage use of this technique until a solution is found for JAWS usage. By the way, have you run into any of the show/hide templates that use a Javascript technique to present two different versions of the same template based on "clicking" a show or hide button? Template:Snake families is an example. I'm curious whether these cause problems with JAWS.

I hope it's not a problem to be asking you about accessibility issues like this. In my opinion, the whole point of the web is accessibility. It greatly irks me when people even inadvertently cause problems for visual browsers other than Internet Explorer (I usually use Safari on a Mac). I'm sure it must be 10 times worse with JAWS. I can't do anything about most of the web, but I can do something about Wikipedia. If you ever run into anything that's problematic here, please let me know. -- Rick Block (talk) 13:59, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the message. I poked around a bit on the Freedom Scientific website, and it seems that there is a keystroke in the latest version of JAWS to move between divisions on the page, if I'm understanding what you mean correctly. That'll be a 700 dollar upgrade for me; fortunately I'll be able to get hold of that money soon. It's also only been in the last year that blind users have been able to use anything other than Internet Explorer efficiently with Windows screen readers, so support for IE is crucial for accessibility.

I've seen the show/hide buttons when they used to be in template:AfD, and they work fine with JAWS so I don't have a problem with them. My biggest accessibility gripe is when people fiddle with the position of the table of contents. If I want to skip the table of contents, I just have to hit "h" to get to the first heading. Templates like Template:TOCright aren't a problem on their own, but when editors put them above the introduction or other important text, a screen reader user will miss the text. I wrote about this at Help:Section #Floating the TOC and Wikipedia Talk:accessibility #articles with a floating TOC. When I first noticed the problem at Isotope, I was baffled because I thought the article had been vandalised and I could find no version to revert to! Graham87 08:51, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Microsoft Sam / Microsoft Anna merge ?

I was rather surprised that these pages were merged into the SAPI page. I thought the old pages were fine, and the current SAPI page seems to just becoming a repository of random speech-related stuff. I think there was a discussion and the idea of removing Windows Text-To-Speech was proposed, but I didn't expect every article related to Microsoft Speech was gonna get deleted. I propose re-adding Microsoft Sam and Microsoft Anna again as I think they are notable unless you disagree. Dave w74 02:43, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your comments. Microsoft Sam may not be state-of-the-art, but it is probably the most widely used TTS voice on the planet, given its inclusion in every copy of Windows XP. I think that makes it far more notable that you suggest. Saying "its only claim to notability is being such a pathetic and useless voice that it's been parodied on the internet" is absurd, as well as being wildly POV.

For what it's worth, I believe Microsoft Sam's voice quality is typical of the concatenative synthesisers of the late 90's & early 2000's, prior to the "long-unit" technology used by AT&T Natural Voices and Microsoft Anna. It's always rated highly on intelligibility tests, although clearly the naturalness is low compared to more modern voices. If you are interested this paper describes some of the technology behind the older SAPI 4 Whisper engine, which the Sam/Mary/Mike engine is based off-of: http://icassp.microsoft.com/akit/sample_paper98.pdf

Back to Wikipedia, I don't think we can have everything Microsoft Speech related on the SAPI article as it's already a long article. I propose either having separate pages for each voice, even if they are short; or having a single page called Microsoft Text-To-Speech engines, which can list Whisper, Sam/Mary/Mike, Anna etc. and describe as much of the underlying technology, user-perceived features, and quirks and bugs as people see fit. Personally I also think there's a need for a Microsoft Speech Recognition engines page which can describe the SR side of things and hopefully allow the SAPI page to focus more on the API and programming models. Dave w74 17:06, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Updated version of navigation bar template

Hi - Can you please check out a newer version of the navigation bar template, at User:Rick Block/navbar? It's not in use anywhere, but this page includes an example. The list itself is now in an HTML list element, so I'm hoping you can use a shortcut traversal to skip past the list to the subsequent content on the page. Please let me know. Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 16:47, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I can use "e" to move to the end of the list from the first item so it works. Graham87 04:19, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi re links

Hi graham87

With all due respect to your time!

Sceala has good reason to be linked to such posts, but we understand the forums 'general rule', and respect it despite seeing plenty of other just forums linked here! and yet sceala is more than a common found forum it has more than a dozen linked sites with specific information about Ireland and with content provided by such people with Irish history degrees; and please note our forums are invite only to post (no one just like here! can just post what they want)! so the quality of unique content can match anything wikipeda for both insight and accuracy provided! so bearing that in mind and a commitment to provide time here and content (as yesterday proved) I have placed the main site link as a reference for people!.

Now if that is too much to expect from time spent here then fine, we will just use this site!

I alert you that a fair amount of our content has been lifted here from our site and we have not complained!

Don't worry it is absolutely no problem if we can't link we will just assume as fact that for some it is ok but others it is not.

Add

That one of the very top links you and others presumably do see fit as suitable!, has barely any content(bar adverts) that a person can read for free! So deleting us and yet approving that site (which has no base of credence in Irish studies any more than us) seems hardly sense or fair play in any way.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sceala (talk • contribs) 08:17, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

01download.net

hello,

Sorry for my english I am from France and I try to write in english:

I have see you allways remove my link from this site this is not spam links what you write in history. This is my perssonal website and I don't take any money from Where I deposited my link there is of another external links, I am not the first to add one links thank you verry much