User talk:Johnuniq
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Administrators' newsletter – July 2024
News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2024).
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Unanswered unblock request
There’s an unblock request here that hasn’t been answered in two weeks. I won’t cast judgement on its validity but I think the user has a right to know whether they’ll be unblocked. Dronebogus (talk) 08:23, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Dronebogus: After a fair bit of thought, I declined the request. Johnuniq (talk) 09:34, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
Continued edit warring during open discussion
Even though one person was already blocked for edit-warring on this, two others continue: Richard D'Oyly Carte. Can you please return it to the status quo ante? -- Ssilvers (talk) 04:48, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- There is an edit request there now that, I think, resolves the issue? -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:09, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- I saw that but did nothing because I think there should be a bit more time to see if anyone else has an opinion. I'll look again a little later. Johnuniq (talk) 02:39, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
user:Smefs again
The user is now baselessly accusing me of being a sock of some user they have a grudge against. This is sufficient evidence to demonstrate they are uninterested in actually getting unblocked. I think revoking their talk page rights is in order. Dronebogus (talk) 16:48, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Dronebogus: The user is now unable to comment further at their talk so there is nothing further to do. However, for the future, please do not repeatedly comment at a blocked users talk unless invited. Very few people think they deserve to be blocked and it is expected that they will vent a bit. I know you were trying to help but it plainly was not doing any good. It's best to leave them alone and comment only if they ask for something specific and it appears that a reply might achieve something useful. Johnuniq (talk) 01:49, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Tupac Page
The Tupac page can now be edited by everyone; it wasn't like that before. Previously, only administrators and users with permission could edit it. This rule needs to be reinstated, or it will be edited every day Pier1999 (talk) 14:12, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- This refers to Tupac Shakur where I don't think I have ever been involved. The above has been posted in a number of places and the article is now fully protected to prevent an edit war. Johnuniq (talk) 02:37, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
Diminishment icosahedron
Hi. Excuse me, can you help me to delete the redirect article Diminishment icosahedron? It seems it is already has the name Diminished icosahedron. I really messed up. Many thanks. Dedhert.Jr (talk) 13:00, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Dedhert.Jr: I wouldn't worry about it. The word "diminishment" appears in the article (Gyroelongated pentagonal pyramid) and the redirect Diminishment icosahedron is not a problem. I would delete it if it was misleading or something bad but the people at WP:RFD accept just about anything for redirects and this is a long way off that. Johnuniq (talk) 01:35, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
Rapid-fire disruptive editor
Please look at User:BittersweetParadox's edit history. They make numerous rapid edits to add wikilinks to words like baseball and make other mischievous edits, such as the edit on July 16th to Lingua franca. They have been warned many, many times. -- Ssilvers (talk) 02:16, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- I have warned and will watch. Johnuniq (talk) 02:58, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
Vandal calling my actions on Nguyễn Phú Trọng 'vandal ism'
Hi. There is a vandal, whose name is Maeve Kessler, trying to revert constructive edits, including mine. can you block him for a while? thank you. 2601:646:8003:6B20:F0F5:240E:3682:771 (talk) 11:23, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- Nevermind, he already got blocked.
- 2601:646:8003:6B20:F0F5:240E:3682:771 (talk) 11:38, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
Request for mentoring and direction
As you likely recall, I recently posted to WP:AN, escalating an issue that many other users explicitly said I was wrong to escalate to that venue and that they objected to my framing in many respects. There were additional complaints about my tone, skirting editing restrictions, etc. I appreciate that the issue at large just got out of control. Unfortunately, the issue in general has continued. As you noted at the time, "changing the style of anything in an article without good reason is very disruptive" and as soon as that conversation was closed at AN, the same user changed styles on an article where we discussed this years ago. I posted to his talk and he archived the thread without responding. Both my perspective and his behavior seem like they are not changing and for many reasons, escalating it to WP:AN is not the right idea and the user does not seem interested in discussing one-one one, so I will not be posting to his talk again as I have no interest in harassing someone who refuses to talk. (I also didn't ping him because I don't see value in that, but I respect if you want to notify him of the conversation.) What do you recommend I do here? I still think and it seems like you validated that changing styles unilaterally is disruptive, so is there something that I'm missing here? What should I be doing differently? ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:18, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- We've gone round and round and round in one-on-one discussions and you made the decision to withdraw your complaint due to the overwhelming majority of the responses from admins being unfavorable toward your argument, so I'm at an impasse as far as being able to engage with you (not that this is anything new). It was brought to my attention through that discourse (by User:Just Step Sideways) that the way you addressed me regarding the page I just went back and made edits to was inappropriate at the time and again, I only make changes under good reasons, and in this case it was to reflect a consistent style across the board as he already had multiple country albums release prior to that with the tracklisting template. CloversMallRat (talk) 16:34, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- Please see this post where Johnuniq explicitly wrote, "If new examples of arbitrary style changes occur, please let me know." That is the only reason I wrote here, since I was solicited to do so. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:13, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
@CloversMallRat: As noted at WP:AN, Koavf has an interesting history and you might correctly assume that the discussion there did not support Koavf's position. However, the comments that I noticed were focusing on the extreme TLDR and background rather than the issue. I did see one comment along the lines of who cares but that is just wrong due to the amazing disruption that has occurred when people dedicate themselves to "fixing" various style issues—dates, spelling, colors, spacing, wiki syntax, and probably many more. The documentation at Template:Track listing specifically mentions MOS:VAR and that does not appear to have been added recently. I take your point that a good argument can be made for a consistent style between articles on a single artist. However, that argument has to be made somewhere central such as a relevant wikiproject. A positive consensus has to be shown before continuing a campaign. Is there any documentation or discussion supporting a continuation? Do you have any idea how many more of these articles need to be "fixed"? A dozen? A hundred? By discussion, I don't mean bickering with extreme indignation at a user or an article talk page. Has there been a calm wikiproject discussion on this issue? If not, and if you intend continuing, please start a discussion and let me know where it is. If wanted, link to here or AN, but do not mention other editors at a wikiproject. What is needed is a calm examination of the issue, not the background. Changing any further articles without such a discussion would be disruptive. Johnuniq (talk) 04:32, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
RPPI for Across the River (etc)
Hi, Many thanks for your recent assistance at WP:RPPI, much appreciated.
Any thoughts on how the broader NOTHERE issues in relation to that multiple IP address user might be resolved? I’m not sure that attempting to get further blocks like this one [1] is really going to work (although i don't think it would necessarily do any harm, given recent edits like this [2].
Any assistance gratefully received. Axad12 (talk) 05:02, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Axad12: I blocked Special:Contributions/151.71.102.0/24 for three months. Let me know what pops up next. Johnuniq (talk) 05:23, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Much obliged. I'll keep an eye on the situation. Axad12 (talk) 05:26, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
Your semi-protection of Withdrawal of Joe Biden from the 2024 United States presidential election
Figured I should point out I had made a RPP for the page so you can mark it off. TrueCRaysball 💬|✏️ 05:36, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- I saw your report which is why I protected. I had to add it to the log and so was slow updating the request page. Johnuniq (talk) 05:37, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Sounds good. We were fighting for our lives there. LMAO. Thanks for your help! TrueCRaysball 💬|✏️ 05:39, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
WP:3TOPE and WikiWork Factor
Hi, @Johnuniq. I have asked this in WP:TEAHOUSE but it does not give responses from many users. Do you know where can I request to include the WP:3TOPE asssesment table to WikiWork Factor? The mismatched number of polyhedron articles in a table is already an old problem after it was created. Dedhert.Jr (talk) 11:27, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- I know very little about article assessment and won't be much help. A relevant mention is at Template talk:Articles by Quality and Importance#Unknown-importance articles not included in total. It looks like the system relies on categories and they can take a long time to update after changes occur. A category might update immediately or it might take several days or longer. If there were a specific problem (at [link], x should be y) I might be able to investigate. I found WikiWork at User:WP 1.0 bot/WikiWork with its FAQ. I agree with a comment at the Teahouse that it can be hard to get a wikiproject going and there is not much point persisting if only one person is involved. Small wikiprojects get created when people are enthusiastic but after a year or so, not much happens and people move on. If I need to ask for assistance with some topic, I prefer asking at a major top-level wikiproject with some activity rather than at a small project which in principle would be more pertinent. I don't know anything about WikiWork. By the way, there is no need to ping someone at their own talk page. Johnuniq (talk) 02:52, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- By the way, my apologies for pinging. It was my habit, and I learned my lesson. After all, it looks like the {{category class}} also have the same effect. I have no clue whether, I, the only person, can remain continue the activity of that project, instead of require some users to do. I wish I could update the project by changing it, although it will be drastic. Dedhert.Jr (talk) 13:48, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
Johnuniq blocked the entire Rogers cellular network from editing Wikipedia
2605:8D80:0:0:0:0:0:0/32 is the range that this user has blocked. Even though the block expires in about 2 months, it's still problematic. (Either it's the Rogers cellular network, the DuckDuckGo web browser, or something else that I missed.) Over1BillionPagesOnWiki (talk) 17:58, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
Neo-fascism
Hello, you have blocked the pages of Freedom and Direct Democracy and Our Homeland Movement. Both have concrete references and an armed consensus so that neo-fascism is mentioned in their infobox. But a user who arbitrarily removes referenced content, because he simply doesn't like it, has removed neo-fascism by arguing that the references don't mention it, which is completely false. So I wanted to ask you to please revert the edits of this disruptive user. Thank you. Democrático Slovak (talk) 14:51, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Democrático Slovak: An issue like this should be discussed on the article talk page. Editors should have been able to see the messages that I left. Johnuniq (talk) 00:44, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
This Daniel Larson nonsense is back. New user:Fhfhdvevdgxgdbegobirhwv is edit warring to add this: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Grace_VanderWaal&diff=prev&oldid=1236817726 to VanderWaal's article. In case you don't remember, Larson is a YouTuber who is apparently obsessed with VanderWaal and has been stalking her for some years, claiming to be her "boyfriend". There is no evidence, other than his own social media posts, that she has ever met or communicated with him. I have tried to explain WP:BLP to this new editor. Would you please take a look? -- Ssilvers (talk) 18:45, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks to Isabelle Belato who handled the issue. Johnuniq (talk) 23:50, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
Happy Adminship Anniversary!
Happy adminship anniversary! Hi Johnuniq! On behalf of the Birthday Committee, I'd like to wish you a very happy anniversary of your successful request for adminship. Enjoy this special day! The Herald (Benison) (talk) 10:25, 30 July 2024 (UTC) |
Email disabled on IPs?
Just curious, since you've done it twice recently - does disabling email on anon. only blocked IPs even do anything?
Or are they just misclicks? – 2804:F1...0F:3702 (talk) 03:23, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- I assume it does nothing. A day or two ago I took a look at what other admins were doing after seeing some blocks for 31 hours(!). A couple I saw had disabled talk and email. I wondered if that was some script they were using or whether they knew something I didn't. I think probably not but it's easy to tick everything to disable it so that's what I've been doing lately. Johnuniq (talk) 03:27, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Admin's Barnstar | |
I wanted to give you this barnstar for your devotion to dealing with IP addresses used by that sick, fierce LTA, in real time! — AP 499D25 (talk) 09:18, 4 August 2024 (UTC) |
- Thanks! Johnuniq (talk) 09:38, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
Why is there so much disruption lately?
For the past month or so, my watchlist has been a blizzard of revdels. Why do you think so much of this is going on at this time? Softlavender (talk) 23:30, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) It's one person, mostly. Everyone needs a hobby, I guess. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:44, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
Advice
Hey, I hope you are doing well. I wanted to please ask for some advice regarding Charlie Suff. For the past few months various IPs (from the same range) have been changing the age, using Genes Reunited despite it not being 100% certain if it is the same person. They kept changing it in May and after I reverted it yesterday and I have told them about WP:BLPPRIMARY they still are not stopping. I initially requested protection for the page but I thought I would ask an admin beforehand, as it is stressing me out that they keep changing this as it is a BLP. I am sorry for disturbing your day. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 03:42, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- @DaniloDaysOfOurLives: I'll handle it but not until there is a good explanation on article talk. After that, please revert with a link to the section with the explanation. If it changes again, you can contact me. On talk, please include what the sources say that leads to the conclusion regarding the birth date. Often it seems best just to omit the birth date if the sourcing is dubious or based on inferences. At any rate, full details are needed on talk for now and for the future when the issue arises again. Johnuniq (talk) 03:50, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
LTA
Hi, Johnuniq. About that LTA user from South Korea who was disruptive at WP:BN, WP:AN and WP:ANI, I have a quick question: is an IP range block necessary? Thanks, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 04:15, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- That was mentioned at ANI but I don't think anyone has properly investigated the range required or the side effects. If you have a suggestion, post it at ANI although only very useful comments should be added per WP:DENY. Johnuniq (talk) 04:20, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Got it. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 04:23, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Why are you blocking what seem to be very dynamic IPs for a year? Blocking for a day would make them hop just the same -- Guerillero Parlez Moi 08:53, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Guerillero: I was doing it for the normal short period, but then I saw very experienced admins blocking for a year. I also saw a couple of IPs which had been blocked for 48 hours or similar a few days prior to being reused. I saw an admin recently blocking for two years. Apparently the IPs are residential proxies which means anyone can get access to them and there is no way to anticipate whether they are proxies or to test them. My preference would be for the WMF to take ownership of the issue and for admins here to not have to do anything. On the one hand, a blocked IP might be prevented from useful contributions, but on the other, regular editors get dispirited when they see inadequate responses to blatant abuse. Johnuniq (talk) 09:10, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – August 2024
News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2024).
- Global blocks may now target accounts as well as IP's. Administrators may locally unblock when appropriate.
- Users wishing to permanently leave may now request "vanishing" via Special:GlobalVanishRequest. Processed requests will result in the user being renamed, their recovery email being removed, and their account being globally locked.
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Thanks for the feedback
Hi, I just wanted to say I really appreciated your feedback. (I had never even heard of WP:FAIT, for example). I was hoping to get some advice about what the best thing to do moving forward on this topic is, I do want to make changes to these articles, but I also really do not want to edit war. Allan Nonymous (talk) 14:31, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Allan Nonymous: 6 minutes after this note saying you don't want to edit war, you [reverted to your preferred version yet again at 1. This is arguably beyond 3RR now. Polyamorph (talk) 14:46, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- I reverted the edit in question. It was, frankly, a pretty silly moment of bad decision making for which I take full responsibility (and WP:TROUTs to the face) for. Allan Nonymous (talk) 15:25, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yet you're still removing content. This counts as a partial revert. Polyamorph (talk) 17:04, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- I reverted the edit in question. It was, frankly, a pretty silly moment of bad decision making for which I take full responsibility (and WP:TROUTs to the face) for. Allan Nonymous (talk) 15:25, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- For the record, this relates to edits at number articles such as 1, with a correspondingly large discussion at WT:WikiProject Numbers#Help remove WP:CRUFT on number articles!. Mass editing without clear consensus in advance can often lead to disruption. Johnuniq (talk) 23:34, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
Ludogorets page
Hey, per the instructions here, I'm reaching out. As you can see in the Ludogorets page history here, there have been more instances of new profiles and IPs doing the same changes - warned a couple of times, referred to the talk page, they're still at it. At this point I'm just getting a bit tired of yelling at a wall and reverting things non-stop - they've even started deleting the default instructions not to edit the roster, possibly to make their changes logical? No clue. As a side question, in the talk page we had a Team Manager for that football club reach out about updating the logo - tried to give some info as did other users, but I'm not sure if we misled him about how to go about the whole thing, if you want to chime in on that too. --Yupyuphello (talk) 17:56, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Yupyuphello: I semi-protected the article but some of the contributors will soon be able to edit it anyway. If problems continue, I'll try to have word with them. You will see that I have replied at article talk regarding the logo (and at the user's talk). Johnuniq (talk) 02:29, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Johnuniq Thank you, I will monitor, there were sadly some unfortunate edits yet again due to a bad result in a game last evening. Should I proactively list any issues/accounts in a reply here every once in a while, or would that be annoying/not the proper way to report anybody continuing to abuse the article? --Yupyuphello (talk) 04:52, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Yupyuphello: Please explain any reverts that are needed on article talk. If repeating yourself, just link to an earlier explanation. You might give a diff of a problematic edit which I can see, but just one or two (it's best to focus on a single issue). You can ping me from there if needed. If I don't respond in 24 hours or so, remind me here because I might have missed a ping. It doesn't matter, but FYI, a ping on a user talk page is not needed and doesn't work. Johnuniq (talk) 05:13, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- I just saw your edit summary: "Reverting another set of malicious changes". Please don't say that sort of thing in an edit summary because it won't help anything and it will count against you if the matter is ever at an admin noticeboard (see WP:VAND which boils down to saying that poop is vandalism but just about anything else is a good-faith although possibly mistaken edit). We can't know if someone is malicious. Just say something like "reverting mistaken edits, see talk". Johnuniq (talk) 05:18, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, will keep it in mind. And fair enough, will stop calling it malicious. Hopefully it will not be held against me, as the latest set of changes are literally people deleting players that performed badly in the last match and replacing the staff with a note in Bulgarian saying "RESIGN RESIGN RESIGN". Either way - thank you for the explanation and the assistance! --Yupyuphello (talk) 07:07, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Johnuniq Thank you, I will monitor, there were sadly some unfortunate edits yet again due to a bad result in a game last evening. Should I proactively list any issues/accounts in a reply here every once in a while, or would that be annoying/not the proper way to report anybody continuing to abuse the article? --Yupyuphello (talk) 04:52, 14 August 2024 (UTC)