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DYK for Nancy Lake State Recreation Area

On 23 November 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Nancy Lake State Recreation Area, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the many lakes in the Nancy Lake State Recreation Area were created during the retreat of glaciers 9,000 years ago? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Nancy Lake State Recreation Area. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Nancy Lake State Recreation Area), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Got 2,500 views, not too shabby. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:02, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Chillicothe, OHio

Hi

I was editing the Chillicothe, Ohio page. I see from your page that you tried to be nice about the Glatfelter small. I live here, and would rather be honest, so I changed it to something like ". . . the noxious pollution is sometimes referred to by residents as 'the smell of money.'" Or at least that's the sentence I *wanted*, but I had already changed it, and when I went in to change it to this version, I got an edit conflict. Having never received one of those before, I don't know how to deal with it. Would you be kind enough to 1) tell me how to do that with this, and/or 2) make the change I wanted? Chillicothe *is* polluted by that paper mill, and there is no question about it, so I'm stating fact. (Try this fact: when I was growing up here, my best friend a half block down the street, my adoptive brother, and I *all* had asthma. It doesn't take Einstein to figure out what caused that!)

Thank you very much! I don't edit Wikipedia very often, and it's usually just small stuff like dropped words or forgotten apostrophes, but this is my hometown, and where I had to move back to nine years ago, so I'm being particularly picky about telling the truth.

Thanks!

PS Some days the smell isn't too bad, and others it will nearly knock you over! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ginger-lyn Summer (talk • contribs) 22:44, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Well, one of the principles of editing Wikipedia articles is verifiability, meaning content, in particular if disputed, must be properly attributed to a reliable source. So, our personal experiences and observations basically don't count here. If you have a source that explicitly says it is pollution we could use that, otherwise probably not. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:38, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

The Next Web

Hi Beeblebrox - you salted The Next Web awhile ago since it was being repeatedly recreated by (I assume) COI editors. I recently had occasion to create an article that referenced it (here), in the process of which I noticed it didn't have an article. Since its last deletion, I think enough additional RS have emerged to justify a stub on it which I've drafted here. Would you consider unprotecting the namespace? Chetsford (talk) 01:52, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

 Done. Beeblebrox (talk) 01:58, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

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Administrators' newsletter – December 2018

News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2018).

Administrator changes

Al Ameer son • Randykitty • Spartaz

Boson • Daniel J. Leivick • Efe • Esanchez7587 • Fred Bauder • Garzo • Martijn Hoekstra • Orangemike

Interface administrator changes

Deryck Chan

Guideline and policy news

• Following a request for comment, the Mediation Committee is now closed and will no longer be accepting case requests.
• A request for comment is in progress to determine whether members of the Bot Approvals Group should satisfy activity requirements in order to remain in that role.
• A request for comment is in progress regarding whether to change the administrator inactivity policy, such that administrators "who have made no logged administrative actions for at least 12 months may be desysopped". Currently, the policy states that administrators "who have made neither edits nor administrative actions for at least 12 months may be desysopped".
• A proposal has been made to temporarily restrict editing of the Main Page to interface administrators in order to mitigate the impact of compromised accounts.

Technical news

• Administrators and bureaucrats can no longer unblock themselves unless they placed the block initially. This change has been implemented globally. See also this ongoing village pump discussion (permalink).
• To complement the aforementioned change, blocked administrators will soon have the ability to block the administrator that placed their block to mitigate the possibility of a compromised administrator account blocking all other active administrators.
• Since deployment of Partial blocks on Test Wikipedia, several bugs were identified. Most of them are now fixed. Administrators are encouraged to test the new deployment and report new bugs on Phabricator or leave feedback on the Project's talk page. You can request administrator access on the Test Wiki here.

Arbitration

• Voting in the 2018 Arbitration Committee Elections is open to eligible editors until Monday 23:59, 3 December 2018. Please review the candidates and, if you wish to do so, submit your choices on the voting page.

Miscellaneous

• In late November, an attacker compromised multiple accounts, including at least four administrator accounts, and used them to vandalize Wikipedia. If you have ever used your current password on any other website, you should change it immediately. Sharing the same password across multiple websites makes your account vulnerable, especially if your password was used on a website that suffered a data breach. As these incidents have shown, these concerns are not pure fantasies.
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• Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (Raymond Arritt) passed away on 14 November 2018. Boris joined Wikipedia as Raymond arritt on 8 May 2006 and was an administrator from 30 July 2007 to 2 June 2008.

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Outing policy

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

I just saw your preliminary comments at the Fred Bauder case. I think that what you said is altogether inconsistent with the actual policy, which reads "The fact that an editor has posted personal information or edits under their own name, making them easily identifiable through online searches, is not an excuse to post the results of "opposition research". Dredging up their off-site opinions to repeatedly challenge their edits can be a form of harassment, just as doing so regarding their past edits on other Wikipedia articles may be." I know that this is one of the many parts of written Wikipedia policy that are widely ignored, but I find this one especially frustrating. The "outing" policy should not be a delicate pentagram that loses all meaning if even a straw is laid across it. It should be a broad commitment to keep off-topic personal information out of our arguments and discuss the edit not the editor, even if his full name is known -- even if it is unique. It should also be applied even where editors are only partially outed; for example, we should not say that an editor who has admitted to being Jewish should be prohibited from editing about Sharia law, nor accept lines of ad hominem debate that focus on the editor's religion rather than his sources. Wnt (talk) 15:18, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

You're very late to the party, and apparently not familiar with what actually happened in this specific case, which was not outing by any reasonable definition. This has been discussed at length at the case itself so I'd rather not carry on about it here as well. Beeblebrox (talk) 16:49, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Fred Bauder closed

An arbitration case regarding Fred Bauder has now closed and the final decision is viewable at the link above. The following remedies have been enacted:

1. Fred Bauder is admonished for engaging in an edit war on his candidate's questions page. Future edit-warring or disruptive behavior may result in further sanctions.
2. For multiple self-unblocks, wheel-warring, and abuse of rollback, Fred Bauder is desysopped. He may regain the administrative tools at any time via a successful request for adminship.
3. Boing! said Zebedee is cautioned for blocking Fred Bauder while actively involved in an edit war with him at the time. He is further cautioned to avoid edit-warring, even in cases where the other editor is editing disruptively.
4. Editors should seek assistance from the Electoral Commission for issues that arise on pages related to the Arbitration Committee Elections that cannot be easily resolved (excluding, for example, obvious vandalism). The Arbitration Committee reaffirms that the Electoral Commission has been tasked with the independent oversight of the Arbitration Committee Elections. Matters which are of a private matter should be referred to the Arbitration Committee or functionaries team as normal.

For the Arbitration Committee, --Cameron₁₁₅₉₈ ^(Talk) 08:07, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

Discuss this at: Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee/Noticeboard#Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Fred Bauder closed

Can you help find an image of a jockstrap?

Hi there. I read on WP:ALASKA that you live(d) on the Kenai Peninsula which is near Anchorage. For the article Russell Crowe's jockstrap, Anna Frodesiak and I are trying to track down an image of said jockstrap which was exhibited in a Blockbuster store in Anchorage for a few months in 2018. Do you happen to you maybe know anyone who might have such an image for Wikipedia or any places I could ask for something like that? Regards SoWhy 09:03, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

Great plan. Please call around, like a local hotel or something and get a snapshot. That article gets a lot of hits, and as such, needs a jockstrap. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:14, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

While near by Alaska standards, most towns on the Kenai Peninsula are one or two-hundred miles from Anchorage. I know that Blockbuster well, and heard something about this on the radio, but never thought to go take a picture. Another person who frequented that store was Bob Lester, from the afore-mentioned radio show. He may have a picture he'd be willing to donate, but he moved out of state, so you may need to contact the radio station to get his current email address. Another option that may yield results would be to contact the current radio morning-show and ask them to do a shout out to the community. (They're a couple nice guys who will probably help if you ask nicely --especially if they can make some jokes out of it.) For both, email either or both Chad and Brad @ KWHL.com. Zaereth (talk) 22:37, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, I make it to Anchorage maybe two or three times a year, I don't think I was ever there while this "item" was on display, although I certainly heard about it. I do know somebody in anchorage who as I recall made a pilgrimage to go see it, I can ask if they took pictures but Zaereth's plan sound pretty good to me. (and yeah, it's a 4-5 hour drive from where I live to Las Anchorage) Beeblebrox (talk) 01:52, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

If you could ask your friend about it, that would be great, then we wouldn't have to bother radio listeners in the area with our silly requests. Regards SoWhy 08:17, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Merry Merry

		Happy Christmas!
		Hello Beeblebrox, Early in A Child's Christmas in Wales the young Dylan and his friend Jim Prothero witness smoke pouring from Jim's home. After the conflagration has been extinguished Dylan writes that Nobody could have had a noisier Christmas Eve. And when the firemen turned off the hose and were standing in the wet, smoky room, Jim's Aunt, Miss. Prothero, came downstairs and peered in at them. Jim and I waited, very quietly, to hear what she would say to them. She said the right thing, always. She looked at the three tall firemen in their shining helmets, standing among the smoke and cinders and dissolving snowballs, and she said, "Would you like anything to read?" My thanks to you for your efforts to keep the 'pedia readable in case the firemen chose one of our articles :-) Best wishes to you and yours and happy editing in 2019. MarnetteD|Talk 08:04, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Merry Christmas !!!

Hello Beeblebrox: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 19:39, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

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Merry Christmas!

Hello Beeblebrox: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, TheSandDoctor ^Talk 07:55, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

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