Talk:Tukdam

Selection of external sources

@Skyerise: Dear colleague: The topic of this article is quite well studied and commented upon, by the religious authorities, religious scholars, and scientists. There are literally thousands (most likely, millions) pages on the Web that discuss tukdam. With this flood of sources, some of them very authoritative (Dalai Lama), why do we need the three particular links to the blog entries and videos by non-experts, non-well-known-religious-leaders? The article should not become a WP:LINKFARM, so we only should add links that provide value for the reader. Can we discuss here what need of our readers is fulfilled by the three links that you have restored? Sincerely, Викидим (talk) 20:08, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

@Викидим: The film titled Tukdam is a professional production. Presence in Death is a professional art show hosted at The Rubin, a museum specializing in the art and cultures of the Himalayas, among other parts of Asia. None of the links are "blog posts". The only qualification for external links is that they provide something that the article is unable to. There is no requirement that they be expert or authoritative. Unless you can explain exactly which element of WP:ELNO a link violates, it should remain. Five links is by no means a link farm. I wrote the article, and by WP:BRD, if I revert your bold change, you may not implement your change unless you can show a WP:CONSENSUS to do so. Skyerise (talk) 20:58, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Please note that I have asked very specific question, while not questioned your ability to put in whatever links you want. I do not want to sound adversarial (I am truly not attached to any of the topics I am writing about here), and I did follow WP:BRD to a tee. So, I would be even more specific now:

1. Regarding In depth discussion with Beri Sonam Wangchuk about meditative state of Thugdam on YouTube: how can you describe the value of this discussion to our readers beyond WP:LINKSTOAVOID #1? Who is Beri Sonam Wangchuk and why his opinion on tukdam is important?
2. Regarding Donagh Coleman. "Presence in Death". The Rubin Museum of Art. and Tukdam: Between Worlds at IMDb: Who is Donagh Coleman and why his video about tukdam is important? Why do we have two out of five external links promoting the works of this particular non-expert?

What I am looking for is some justification about your choice of these three links. Ideally, these explanations should be added to the items in the "External links" section in order to prevent this list (in a potentially very popular article) from overflowing by other links. After all, content creators definitely would like to (and try to) use an opportunity to promote their wares in Wikipedia, and the search for "tukdam" on YouTube reveals a lot of existing content. Викидим (talk) 23:11, 11 July 2024 (UTC)