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What unsourced Hotep nonsense is this. [[User Talk:Ogress|Ogress]] 15:01, 10 May 2016 (UTC) |
What unsourced Hotep nonsense is this. [[User Talk:Ogress|Ogress]] 15:01, 10 May 2016 (UTC) |
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{{reply to|Ogress|ThePlatypusofDoom|DeviantAttitude}} "Hotep nonsense"? Really? Their page needs work and I told them to provide a cited definition that is less their understanding and more a presentation of how the term is used in Hip Hop, with linked examples. Perhaps the term Hip Hop Queen is unfamiliar to these Wikipedia-using "culture warriors" because they don't pay attention to women in Hip Hop, which is the entire point of getting a page like this up and running. You might want to check books like Black Girlhood Celebration: Toward a Hip-hop Feminist Pedagogy, From Black Power to Hip Hop: Racism, Nationalism, and Feminism, Home with Hip Hop Feminism: Performances in Communication and Culture, and Home Girls Make Some Noise!: Hip-hop Feminism Anthology (there are so many more that you can find on your own) before you make comments about something you are clearly not knowledgeable about and/or resistant to. The tone of the critiques are not appreciated nor are they helpful. Also {{reply to|Wasted Time R}} Thank you for your advocacy. The point of the project is to empower them to share their new knowledge, not discourage them. --[[User:JustJess PhD|JustJess PhD]] ([[User talk:JustJess PhD|talk]]) 14:01, 11 May 2016 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete''' - [[WP:OR|original research]], [[WP:SYNTH|synthesis]], and an [[WP:NOTESSAY|essay]] with extensive, unsourced editorializing: "Las Krudas ask for respect, recognition, and critical representations of people from the African descent throughout their music. As an all-women group it is ironic that their most popular music politicize menstruation, celebrates the bodies of black and fat women, and advocate the love for women and between women. This message has been hard for this group to get across because of the male-centeredness of the Cuban hip hop movement. As a result of personal and professional reasons Las Krudas decided to leave Cuba... They recognized and confronted the absurdity of the noticeable inequalities, and social justice-inspired messages that always thrived on the politics and aesthetic differences." [[User:GeneralizationsAreBad|GAB]]<sup>[[User talk:GeneralizationsAreBad|Hello!]]</sup> 21:31, 10 May 2016 (UTC) |
*'''Delete''' - [[WP:OR|original research]], [[WP:SYNTH|synthesis]], and an [[WP:NOTESSAY|essay]] with extensive, unsourced editorializing: "Las Krudas ask for respect, recognition, and critical representations of people from the African descent throughout their music. As an all-women group it is ironic that their most popular music politicize menstruation, celebrates the bodies of black and fat women, and advocate the love for women and between women. This message has been hard for this group to get across because of the male-centeredness of the Cuban hip hop movement. As a result of personal and professional reasons Las Krudas decided to leave Cuba... They recognized and confronted the absurdity of the noticeable inequalities, and social justice-inspired messages that always thrived on the politics and aesthetic differences." [[User:GeneralizationsAreBad|GAB]]<sup>[[User talk:GeneralizationsAreBad|Hello!]]</sup> 21:31, 10 May 2016 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete''' Per [[WP:OR]]. The term isn't widely used or even used at all, NN at the very least. [[User:ThePlatypusofDoom|ThePlatypusofDoom]] [[User talk:ThePlatypusofDoom|(Talk)]] 21:50, 10 May 2016 (UTC) |
*'''Delete''' Per [[WP:OR]]. The term isn't widely used or even used at all, NN at the very least. [[User:ThePlatypusofDoom|ThePlatypusofDoom]] [[User talk:ThePlatypusofDoom|(Talk)]] 21:50, 10 May 2016 (UTC) |
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:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Music|list of Music-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:Wiae|/wiae]] [[User talk:Wiae|<small>/tlk</small>]] 22:01, 10 May 2016 (UTC)</small> |
:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Music|list of Music-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:Wiae|/wiae]] [[User talk:Wiae|<small>/tlk</small>]] 22:01, 10 May 2016 (UTC)</small> |
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This is a ridiculous page, utterly ridiculous. The intro says "A "Hip Hop Queen" is a term used to describe an individual in the Hip Hop industry who has transgressed the stereotypes presented to female and queer bodies.The Queen is no longer just a Ride-or-die chick or a baby mama, the Queen is a person who is in charge of their own agency. By being a Hip Hop Queen, the Queen has received the greatest title a female or queer individual in Hip Hop can receive."
What unsourced Hotep nonsense is this. Ogress 15:01, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
@Ogress, ThePlatypusofDoom, and DeviantAttitude: "Hotep nonsense"? Really? Their page needs work and I told them to provide a cited definition that is less their understanding and more a presentation of how the term is used in Hip Hop, with linked examples. Perhaps the term Hip Hop Queen is unfamiliar to these Wikipedia-using "culture warriors" because they don't pay attention to women in Hip Hop, which is the entire point of getting a page like this up and running. You might want to check books like Black Girlhood Celebration: Toward a Hip-hop Feminist Pedagogy, From Black Power to Hip Hop: Racism, Nationalism, and Feminism, Home with Hip Hop Feminism: Performances in Communication and Culture, and Home Girls Make Some Noise!: Hip-hop Feminism Anthology (there are so many more that you can find on your own) before you make comments about something you are clearly not knowledgeable about and/or resistant to. The tone of the critiques are not appreciated nor are they helpful. Also @Wasted Time R: Thank you for your advocacy. The point of the project is to empower them to share their new knowledge, not discourage them. --JustJess PhD (talk) 14:01, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
- Delete - original research, synthesis, and an essay with extensive, unsourced editorializing: "Las Krudas ask for respect, recognition, and critical representations of people from the African descent throughout their music. As an all-women group it is ironic that their most popular music politicize menstruation, celebrates the bodies of black and fat women, and advocate the love for women and between women. This message has been hard for this group to get across because of the male-centeredness of the Cuban hip hop movement. As a result of personal and professional reasons Las Krudas decided to leave Cuba... They recognized and confronted the absurdity of the noticeable inequalities, and social justice-inspired messages that always thrived on the politics and aesthetic differences." GABHello! 21:31, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
- Delete Per WP:OR. The term isn't widely used or even used at all, NN at the very least. ThePlatypusofDoom (Talk) 21:50, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. /wiae /tlk 22:01, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Disregard of WP:OR, article written with unrecognisable gibberish alluding to a term that isn't even used within the genre. DeviantAttitude (talk) 22:33, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
- Important comment. If you look a little at this you'll find out that this article is being written as part of a college class assignment, see Wikipedia:Wiki Ed/SUNY New Paltz/Gender and Sexuality in Hip Hop Culture (Spring 2016). Instead of nuking it with this torrent of WP:guidelines abuse, maybe it would be better to contact the instructor, User:JustJess PhD, and work out what would be a better direction for the article to take? You're actually supposed to be encouraging the next generation of contributors, not vilifying them. Wasted Time R (talk) 00:18, 11 May 2016 (UTC)