Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2021 June 17

17 June 2021

Craig_Dillon

Craig_Dillon (talk|edit|history|logs|links|watch) (XfD|restore)

Subject is a well known former advisor to Prime Minister Boris Johnson, and now a DC based political commentator on Fox News. Passes GNC.

Deletion seems to have happened immediately after the subject most recently appeared on the Tucker Carlson show discussing Joe Biden meeting the Queen in the UK. Therefore I imagine the deletion was something to do with him being on Fox News, rather than a legitimate reason for deletion. There was no discussion before deletion, the page was then salted, and "protected" to stop anyone from recreating it, which is madness and not how Wikipedia operates.

The fact that previous versions of the page and its sources cannot even be viewed anymore, means I do not see how we can have a fair and informed discussion about the legitimacy of this page.

The original page was well sourced with multiple links to reputable media articles about this subject including from The Times, The Telegraph and various others. The subject also makes regular appearances on Fox News, Sky News, BBC News and CNN, and there were multiple links to verify this.

He definitely passes the general notability guidelines. I understand the page was nominated for deletion in 2016, prior to his work with the Prime Minister. Now it doesn't make sense for him to not have a page, when he is clearly notable, whether you agree with him or not.

I also note the article included details about his previous career, he was a journalist at Sky News, again with multiple sourced articles and interviews focusing on him. He then advised multiple senior UK politicians, again well sourced, and there is a large amount of press around him being the first person in the UK to be tested for Covid-19 while he was working with the Prime Minister back in January 2020.

I call for the page to be reinstated and a nomination for deletion to be fairly debated, as is customary. T.corbett (talk) 17:55, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

• Comment @T.corbett: Your edit here is considered canvassing and is not appropriate.-- Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 18:12, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

• Comment @Ponyo: My apologies, I was not aware of the canvassing rule. I will remove. ^{[[User talk:T.Corbett} 1, 19.16 June 2021 (GMT)

• Comment I also note the first article for deletion is from 2006 and referencing a different Craig Dillon - this subject is not a musician. — Preceding unsigned comment added by T.corbett (talk • contribs) 18:24, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

• Endorse an article on this person has been deleted at AfD three times now. Given that any attempt to recreate it should at least come with convincing evidence that the subject is notable. I've had a look at the last deleted version and I can't say I agree with the OP's claim that the subject clearly passes the GNG. The article was refbombed to try to shore up claims to notability. He is quoted or mentioned in numerous articles about how British politicans are using the internet, but they don't constitute significant coverage. Several sources are about a time he was interviewing a famous actor and the actor said something controversial. Several sources are about the fact that he was briefly quarantined in a hospital in the early stages of the COVID-19 pandemic, but they just cover him as a normal person and scarcely mention any of the reasons this article claims he's well known. This source is a local UK newspaper talking about how a local teenager has got lots of views on YouTube. Hut 8.5 19:21, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

• Comment: in my opinion, these edits are still canvassing, given the filer does not contact everyone who !voted 'delete' but only those who !voted 'keep'. Further, endorse deletion and salt as closer, deletion was fairly debated over the appropriate period (despite what the nominator appears to be suggesting in the final line of their statement above), and for not the first time this "fair debate" reached the same end outcome of 'delete'. Daniel (talk) 20:29, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
• Endorse I wish the AfD had been better attended, but it seems to have come to the correct result. I would salt the article as well given the promotionalism, its number of times at AfD (even ignoring the first one), and canvassing. SportingFlyer T·C 20:54, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

• Overturn:I understand there have been a few Afd, however the last one was over 4 years ago, and the subject has clearly increased his notoriety in that time, for example, he is the entire subject of this article from The Telegraph (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/the-filter/meet-millennials-helping-tory-leadership-hopefuls-go-viral/) about how he has been advising senior politicians including Prime Minister Boris Johnson. Here is another source for his recent appearance on the Tucker Carlson show on Fox News - https://video.foxnews.com/v/6219746150001. As noted above, "He is quoted or mentioned in numerous articles about how British politicians are using the internet", with the majority of these articles being about him and his work advising these politicians. I think we are being misguided by some of his previous sources - the articles about YouTube and asking a question to Daniel Radcliffe. I agree these alone don't warrant a page, however given that he is regularly appearing on my TV, and with his past work advising Prime Minister Boris Johnson, we should have a page to document him. Maybe the case is that the article needed to be tidied up, but certainly not deleted and salted.
• Temp undeleted for DRV WilyD 10:35, 18 June 2021 (UTC)