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:'''Support''' but <u>Far side</u> and also mention that cubesat of Pakistan that also launched with it [[ICUBE-Q|(ICUBE-Q)]] [[User:4-RAZOR 01|RΔ𝚉🌑R-𝕏 ]] ([[User talk:4-RAZOR 01|talk]]) 11:37, 4 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:'''Wait'''. The significant part of the mission is on the return aspect of it. If it successfully returns to earth with lunar samples from the far side, then I’d say it should be posted. [[User:RPH|RPH]] ([[User talk:RPH|talk]]) 13:13, 4 May 2024 (UTC) |
:'''Wait'''. The significant part of the mission is on the return aspect of it. If it successfully returns to earth with lunar samples from the far side, then I’d say it should be posted. [[User:RPH|RPH]] ([[User talk:RPH|talk]]) 13:13, 4 May 2024 (UTC) |
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* '''Wait''' - the riskiest portion is the moon landing. The most interesting part is the return to earth. We should wait for one of those. {{br}} Separately, '''Oppose''' on quality; the article says the mission is 53 days, but details like "when is it expected to arrive/leave the moon's surface" are missing. [[Special:Contributions/217.180.228.138|217.180.228.138]] ([[User talk:217.180.228.138|talk]]) 23:32, 4 May 2024 (UTC) |
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RD: Frank Stella
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
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- Nominated by ElijahPepe (talk · give credit)
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RD: Darius Morris
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Laker NationBleacher ReportTMZ SportsNew York PostCBS SportsESPN
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- Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
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Chinese moon mission
Blurb: The first mission to recover samples from the dark side of the moon, Chang'e 6, is launched. (Post)
Alternative blurb: The China National Space Administration launches the Chang'e 6 spacecraft to retrieve a sample from the far side of the Moon.
News source(s): Al Jazeera, BBC, China Daily, CNN, NYT
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- Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Nonovix (talk · give credit)
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The mission has various phases over 53 days. It has started and so is in the news. The article will need updating as it progresses and so might be a candidate for Ongoing in due course. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:28, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Ongoing Science! Article seems fine, except for a tweet being used as a source. Would be great to have an expected timeline of the mission. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 10:01, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Missions like this are not good for ongoing because there will not be daily news coverage of it, only things like this launch, its landing, its relaunch, and its return. — Masem (t) 12:59, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Chang'e 4 landed on the dark side in 2019. Stephen 10:04, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- The first in this case seems to be the goal of bringing samples home from the dark side. The blurb has been updated accordingly. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:32, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support. The article is a bit light, but does meet our minimum requirements. This qualifies as ITNR. The originally suggested blurb is poor, I've added alt1. Modest Genius talk 10:53, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support alt1 which does not repeat the error of calling the Far Side the 'dark side', and is generally clearer. I'm personally not a fan of posting every space mission, but this is clearly within the ITNR parameters for them. GenevieveDEon (talk) 11:03, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose for now but Tentative support landing when that happens, though right now the article quality is not great for posting - its missing a lot of details we'd expect for a major space mission. This doesn't meet any of the ITNR for space exploration, but when it lands on the moon (and ideally, in working condition), then that is ITNR. I cannot find the timeline for this, but using Chang'e 4 as a reference, it will only take about 5-6 days to get to lunar orbit, but then at which point I dont know how long after it will take to land (Chang'e 4 took about 2 weeks from orbit to land). --Masem (t) 13:05, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Was that ITNR criterion changed at some point? I was convinced it covered both the launch and arrival of interplanetary missions, but you're right WP:ITNR doesn't actually say that. I'm happy with wait for landing if that's the consensus. Modest Genius talk 13:28, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- At one point I am pretty sure we have the first launches of any new type of rocket on there, but with commercial space activities now happening, I think we removed that. Even then, this would not have qualified as its not a new rocket. The probe is the newsworthy item and assuming a soft landing, it would be good for that, as well as successful end of mission (return to earth w/ samples) — Masem (t) 14:59, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Was that ITNR criterion changed at some point? I was convinced it covered both the launch and arrival of interplanetary missions, but you're right WP:ITNR doesn't actually say that. I'm happy with wait for landing if that's the consensus. Modest Genius talk 13:28, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per Masem; ITNR doesn't cover launches, only successful arrivals.
Arrival of spacecraft (to lunar orbit and beyond) at their destinations
Kcmastrpc (talk) 13:17, 3 May 2024 (UTC) - Wait until landing, if successful, per Masem and Kcmastrpc ✈ mike_gigs talkcontribs 13:37, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Weak support for blurb, stronger support for waiting for landing This is a notable event in space travel and for science in general, but I think the landing will be more suitable for the blurb. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 15:11, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Points arising
- The ITN/R issue is not important because items are not required to be ITN/R to be posted. For example, we're currently blurbing the Voyager update even though that's not ITN/R. The essential requirement is that the item is in the news and this moon shot is now the current news while the Voyager item is getting stale.
- The ultimate destination of this probe is back on Earth as the main idea is to gather samples and study them here. But we don't want to wait until everything is over. Waiting for the moon landing may be problematic technically as the landing is on the dark/far side and so will be done autonomously and so communications will presumably be difficult or delayed.
- The bottom line is that this item is international news now. Why can't we just do the obvious thing and post it now? Perfect is the enemy of good.
- Andrew🐉(talk) 17:31, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- The probe's destination is the moon, even if the ultimate destination is returning back to earth. Just because communication will be spotty doesn't mean the space agency won't know if it landed or not. — Masem (t) 13:14, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support. The Voyager blurb is also pretty stale. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 20:42, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, we need some chang'e in the blurbs. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 21:20, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support but Far side and also mention that cubesat of Pakistan that also launched with it (ICUBE-Q) RΔ𝚉🌑R-𝕏 (talk) 11:37, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- Wait. The significant part of the mission is on the return aspect of it. If it successfully returns to earth with lunar samples from the far side, then I’d say it should be posted. RPH (talk) 13:13, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- Wait - the riskiest portion is the moon landing. The most interesting part is the return to earth. We should wait for one of those.
Separately, Oppose on quality; the article says the mission is 53 days, but details like "when is it expected to arrive/leave the moon's surface" are missing. 217.180.228.138 (talk) 23:32, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
RD: Kailash Chandra Gahtori
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Deccan Herald
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- Updated and nominated by Curbon7 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Indian politician. Always a bit sad to find out someone I wrote about died. Curbon7 (talk) 08:38, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support - article isn't huge but is sourced well enough ✈ mike_gigs talkcontribs 13:38, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support - Article seems to meet the minimum requirements. Solid sourcing, provides coverage of life and death. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 19:49, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
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RD:Sjoukje Dijkstra
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NBC News
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- Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
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Dutch figure skater.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 21:31, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support article look good to me even though I would have expected a longer article for a Olympic Gold Medalist. PrinceofPunjabTALK 04:07, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support - looks good enough ✈ mike_gigs talkcontribs 13:41, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Outsanding Cn tags.—Bagumba (talk) 14:46, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
RD:Peter Oosterhuis
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian ,Golfweek
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- Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
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British Golfer.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 16:53, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Almost ready the orange tag in Broadcasting career section needs to be fixed. PrinceofPunjabTALK 04:05, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support - article has been updated ✈ mike_gigs talkcontribs 13:43, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
(Updated) Jeremiah Manele
Blurb: Following the Solomon Islands general election, Jeremiah Manele succeeds Manasseh Sogavare as the Prime Minister of Solomon Islands. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Jeremiah Manele is elected as the Prime Minister of Solomon Islands.
News source(s): AP, Reuters
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- Nominated by Classicwiki (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Borgenland (talk · give credit), Cbls1911 (talk · give credit) and Selzie 777 (talk · give credit)
The current ITN blurb on the 2024 Solomon Islands general election is now stale and somewhat misleading. Jeremiah Manele is now the prime minister. This could just be an update to the current blurb. The Jeremiah Manele is just a stub though (at the time of this nomination), which is a problem. -- Classicwiki (talk) 08:07, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Update existing blurb, with just the elections article in bold. Manele's article is in no state for a bold link, but the election article does discuss him becoming prime minister (in the 'aftermath') section. Modest Genius talk 10:54, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Update existing blurb bolding only the elections article, as Manele article does not meet WP:ITNQUALITY. Also, as per WP:EASTEREGG, we should just link to Prime Minister of Solomon Islands directly rather than Prime Minister of Solomon Islands. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:08, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Update existing blurb I agree that it is rather misleading, especially since the current blurb says that Sogavare led the party, the short descriptions of Sogavare and Manele are already updated so it makes since to update the blurb Normalman101 (talk) 15:00, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Updated current blurb. – robertsky (talk) 16:37, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment @Classicwiki, Modest Genius, Joseph2302, and Normalman101: Jeremiah Manele has been expanded. It can be bolded once its vetted.—Bagumba (talk) 03:42, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- There's one {{cn}}, but yes that looks good enough to bold now. Thanks! Modest Genius talk 10:29, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Bolded That lone Cn seems resolved now too.—Bagumba (talk) 10:55, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- There's one {{cn}}, but yes that looks good enough to bold now. Thanks! Modest Genius talk 10:29, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
(Closed) Colombia israel relations
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Blurb: Colombia officially severs relations with Israel due to the Israel–Hamas war. (Post)
News source(s): al jaz
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- Nominated by 37.252.81.135 (talk · give credit)
- Comment Colombia–Israel relations would be a better target article. However currently the update is just one sentence, which isn't sufficient. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 08:56, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Covered by ongoing --Masem (t) 11:58, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose yes, covered by ongoing. _-_Alsor (talk) 13:29, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Covered by ongoing. Also, wouldn't the ECP restriction apply here? Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 13:42, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per above ✈ mike_gigs talkcontribs 13:51, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose: Already covered by ongoing. Duke of New Gwynedd (talk | contrib.) 15:23, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
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(Posted)RD: Lyle Bauer
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBC News; Winnipeg Blue Bombers; Global News
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- Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Bloom6132 (talk) 14:09, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support - looks good enough to me ✈ mike_gigs talkcontribs 17:05, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support article seems ready to be posted. PrinceofPunjabTALK 04:03, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Posted to RD. SpencerT•C 03:45, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
RD:Richard Tandy
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
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- Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
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Needs some work.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 10:05, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose orange tag and several cn tags. PrinceofPunjabTALK 04:01, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
(Closed) Loblaw boycott begins in Canada
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Blurb: Canadians begin a month-long boycott against Loblaw, the largest grocery retail corporation in the country. (Post)
Alternative blurb: A country-wide boycott begins against Loblaw, the largest grocery retail corporation in Canada.
News source(s): CBC, The Globe And Mail, Global News, CTV Atlantic/CTV Ottawa, The Canadian Press (published by CTV News, Calgary Herald, etc.
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- Created and nominated by B3251 (talk · give credit)
Notable and scheduled month-long boycotting campaign against Canada's largest grocery retail corporation, starting from Reddit. B3251 (talk) 08:27, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Merely stating an intention to boycott a particular store doesn't mean it will actually occur on a widespread scale. The most likely outcome is that a handful of people avoid shopping at the company's stores, while life will carry on as normal for everyone else. In the absence of objective proof that the company experiences a sustained (multi-week) significant decline in sales, this is not worthy of a blurb. Chrisclear (talk) 11:08, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Likewise. The artilce is reeks of NOTNEWS and CRYSTALBALL. it is the 2nd of May and barely sunrise there.37.252.95.154 (talk) 11:11, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose: it's questionable whether the subject even deserves its own article (it could probably be described in a paragraph in the Loblaw Companies article), or whether the boycott will be at all significant (much as we're frustrated by high grocery prices, we still need to eat). --RFBailey (talk) 11:24, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. I too am surprised we even have an article about the intentions of Reddit users. Even if all 60,000 genuinely stop shopping there for a month, Loblaws will barely notice. If this somehow has major impacts (e.g. bankrupts the chain or causes major social unrest) then I'll be willing to reassess, but so far the impact is zero and likely to remain that way. Is the boycott against Loblaw Companies, as linked in the proposed blurb, or just the Loblaws supermarkets? Modest Genius talk 11:33, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- I understand the concerns as well as the opposition towards nominating for ITN, but I support this being a standalone article. It's received pretty adequate coverage in the few months leading up to the boycott and it's definitely one of the most established consumer boycott movements directly related to the 2021–2023 inflation surge and in the 2020s overall outside of the American conservative-led Bud Light and Target Pride Month boycotts/backlash movements. B3251 (talk) 13:03, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose, and article should be merged into Loblaw unless the boycott gains serious traction. --Masem (t) 11:59, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- This kind of article is probably best featured when the event concludes. This is also when our article on it will be at its best state, and when the exact impact is clearest. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 13:32, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose - can see this article headed to AfD ✈ mike_gigs talkcontribs 13:53, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose - Dreadful blurb, it comes across as trying to handwave the limited scope of the protest by simply saying "Canadians begin a boycott". How many? 50? 500? 500,000? Who knows? Duly signed, ⛵ WaltClipper -(talk) 15:39, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose irrelevant for ITN. Per all above. _-_Alsor (talk) 15:44, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
RD:Uma Ramanan
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Hindu
Credits:
- Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Indian singer.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 22:03, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose - List of "major hits" is unreferenced, immediately preceding citation goes to a dead link. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 22:18, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose there are some claims that are unsourced. PrinceofPunjabTALK 03:23, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
RD/Blurb:Duane Eddy
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb: Influential rock guitarist, Duane Eddy dies at age 86 (Post)
News source(s): Guitar World, NYT, Variety
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- Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Humbledaisy (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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The article needs more work but the first guitar hero already has a Legacy section which makes a start at showing his considerable influence. The NYT explains that "Mr. Eddy had tremendous success as a strictly instrumental recording artist in the late 1950s and ’60s, selling millions of records worldwide with growling, echo-laden hits like “Rebel Rouser” and “Forty Miles of Bad Road.” In the process, he played a major role in establishing electric guitar as the predominant musical instrument in rock ’n’ roll. Mr. Eddy influenced a multitude of rock guitarists, including George Harrison, Jimi Hendrix and Bruce Springsteen..." Andrew🐉(talk) 22:33, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Could Andrew possibly explain why he thinks the person is blurb worthy? No number-1 hits anywhere, not a Jimi Hendrix type, the "legacy" section is just some random name-dropping. 217.180.228.138 (talk) 21:30, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose RD on quality, lots of unsourced material. Oppose blurb the article is begging to explain the type of influence he might have - just saying other musicians found him an influence doesn't make him a great figure in terms of modern music. Masem (t) 22:50, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose RD various unsourced paragraphs. Oppose blurb he was not a household name and I do not seem to find anything why he should be blurbed. PrinceofPunjabTALK 03:21, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose RD on quality, oppose blurb per above. Not even the article makes a case as to why he's blurb-worthy. The Kip 03:57, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose blurb on principle against them This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 05:15, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Unreliable source WP:ALLMUSIC needs replacement.—Bagumba (talk) 07:29, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose RD due to many unreliable sources (Discogs, IMDB, AllMusic, ...). Oppose blurb, not a household name and not a significant death. The Legacy section listing people "acknowledging Eddy's influence" is extremely vague and not very encyclopedic. Also, "influential" is WP:PEACOCK and shouldn't be used as a descriptor, especially on the main page. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 12:30, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose RD and Blurb per above. LiamKorda 14:30, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Blurb inb4 "two wrongs don't make a right", but Little Richard was scandalously posted as RD only despite his immense influence on the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin and Prince inter alia. (check the length and detail of his legacy section vis-a-vis Mr Eddy's). If that fell below the bar of an influential musician, then the bar is very high. Unknown Temptation (talk) 09:38, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, indeed, the bar for death blurbs is very high. That's how it works. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 12:56, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD:Terry Medwin
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC, Tottenham Hotspur
Credits:
- Nominated by Govvy (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Welsh, Swansea and Tottenham Hotspur football player.Govvy (talk) 12:32, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support Just added citations for the Honours section, the only uncited section. MAINEiac4434 (talk) 16:33, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support - I've cited the last uncited sentence (Swans appearances). Rest looks good. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 22:23, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support article appears ready to be posted. PrinceofPunjabTALK 03:24, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Posted—Bagumba (talk) 02:59, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
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RD: Peter Demetz
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): FAZ
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- Updated and nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Born in Prague, persecuted by the Nazis, to Germany in 1949 to escape Communism, new studies in the U.S., Professor of German studies at Yale University, also literature critic for leading papers German papers and book author. Had an article of two sentences. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:11, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support Article looks solid. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 19:02, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: Article could use additional depth about his role as a German literature scholar, maybe 2-4 sentences of detail for any additional scholarly work he did at Yale. SpencerT•C 05:50, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- I just found ref name="Herčík" with a detailed record of which position he had exactly when, also much more detailed lists of publications and awards. I haven't checked the speeches, and am busy this weekend. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:25, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
RD: Norman J. Kansfield
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT
Credits:
- Nominated by The ed17 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Connormah (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Former priest who was defrocked for marrying his daughter to another woman. Article could use more citations. Kansfield died on January 27th but as The New York Times noted, "His death was not widely reported, and The New York Times was only recently informed of it." Ed [talk] [OMT] 20:05, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose he died nearly three months ago. I think it is a little late for it to be posted to the Recent Deaths section. PrinceofPunjabTALK 03:28, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose - Stale, per above ✈ mike_gigs talkcontribs 16:28, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Is it any more stale than us posting Stanislav Petrov (discussion link) or Rieko Kodama (discussion link), both of whom died months before their deaths were widely reported? -BRAINULATOR9 (TALK) 20:35, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
RD/Blurb: Paul Auster
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:
- Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:55F6:732:1B7B:C008 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Alexcalamaro (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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American novelist. 240F:7A:6253:1:55F6:732:1B7B:C008 (talk) 05:55, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose - until it meets quality standards. Too many {cn} tags, and the “Reception” section has at least 3 long and unwieldy quotes from Michael Dirda, Donna Seaman, and James Wood (undue weight to these 3 book reviewers). Also have a question: Do we need ISBN’s for the bibliography section? I will Support Blurb when the article meets the quality standards. Trauma Novitiate (talk) 19:36, 1 May 2024 (UTC) Moving my next comment here showing that I’m not voting twice, but pointing out that Auster is not considered to be a “niche” writer in Europe. He’s only unknown in the United States, where he was born and lived most of his life. Auster’s influence and popularity is mostly in Europe, where he is actually revered. Keep in mind that the day-after-death (dad) on April 30 the following facts from May 01 happened:
- Paul Auster Wikipedia (WP) page receives 137,000 pageviews the day after death (dad) on this site (English WP)
- 100+ Auster obituaries published around the world (dad)
- Auster’s RD featured on Main Page of German Wikipedia; French WP; Danish WP; Spanish WP; Dutch WP; Portuguese WP so far on the (dad)
- Paul Auster’s picture is featured on the Main Page of the French, Danish, and Spanish Wikipedia sites so far on the (dad)
- +100,000 Paul Auster article pageviews on French WP dad (day after death)[1]
- +80,000 pageviews on German WP dad[2]
- +82,000 pageviews on Spanish WP dad[3]
- +9,000 pageviews on Portuguese WP dad[4]
Anyhow, I hope we can at least get the Paul Auster article up to quality standards and y’all will consider a blurb or at least a picture. Thank you. Trauma Novitiate (talk) 08:07, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose RD on current quality. Those are some high ass quotes which are not appropriate for a start. Oppose blurb as no sign he was consider a great figure.. Having numerous works or having several awards is not meeting the high bar we expect for blurbs. Did his writing or films massively change either industry? I'm not seeing any indication of that. Masem (t) 19:43, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- The New York Trilogy is one of my favorite series and even I'd Oppose blurb. He's extremely well-known in certain niches, but still not known to most who read contemporary fiction, let alone the general public. Sincerely, Dilettante 01:05, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose RD article has several issues. Oppose blurb not one of the leading figures in his field. PrinceofPunjabTALK 03:29, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose RD on quality, oppose blurb as he seems far too niche to be blurb-worthy. The Kip 03:58, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Being featured as a RD on other Wikipedia languages doesn't mean we should consider him for a blurb. We don't decide what to feature on the mainpage based on pageviews. Also, please don't !vote twice, you can reply to your earlier comment instead to not give the impression that more people are supporting than what is actually the case. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 12:32, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- For what it's worth, I believe the last author death-blurbed was Milan Kundera who received about the same number of pageviews. Sincerely, Dilettante 14:55, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Kundera got as few page views as this guy? Is this a Joke? Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 20:27, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Blurb: I've been reading his novels since The New York Trilogy. He has most certainly been one of our contemporary literary greats. But his influence has been merely respectable. As mentioned above, his work has been and remains very niche. 128.91.40.237 (talk) 15:13, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- We don't decide what to blurb based on pageviews. For example, actor Matthew Perry's page got nearly 10 million views two days after his death but we did not blurbed it. PrinceofPunjabTALK 03:59, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Blurb - As noted above, we don't use page views (or postings on other wikis, or any other metric considerations) when deciding what to post. And while Auster was influential, I don't see him as being such a towering figure as to merit a blurb. Also, please note that Trauma Novitiate has effectively !voted twice. GenevieveDEon (talk) 11:06, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
Haiti update
Blurb: Leblanc Fils is chosen as the interim head of Haiti's Transitional Presidential Council. (Post)
News source(s): Telesur, CNN
Credits:
- Nominated by 37.252.81.135 (talk · give credit)
No need for a new one, just update the existing blurb.
Also his page may be created like the petit fellow in andorra was made quickly, if not jsut the same link as the current headline with a different name.37.252.81.135 (talk) 03:32, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose for now - target article does not exist. The Kip 05:04, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose article does exist now, but this is just a small note in the current Haitian political situation. Natg 19 (talk) 06:04, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose I created the page for Edgard LeBlanc Fils over a month ago, but the bigger story will be the nomination of a new prime minister. When Le Moniteur officialises Boisvert's replacement by Fritz Bélizaire the main page should indeed include that info. -- SashiRolls 🌿 · 🍥 11:45, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose the lead article is a stub. PrinceofPunjabTALK 03:35, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Mely G. Tan
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Kompas
Credits:
- Nominated by Crisco 1492 (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Indonesian academic — Chris Woodrich (talk) 20:48, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support article looks well sourced. Aydoh8 (talk | contribs) 23:00, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Restored to ITNC. Was deleted by an IP with this edit. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 09:11, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support - article looks good ✈ mike_gigs talkcontribs 14:13, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose although all sources and information is now on the article but it would be better if the article is divided into various section such early life, career etc. rather than a single biography section. PrinceofPunjabTALK 03:38, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Biography split into two sections, though I note that WP:ITNQUALITY does not include division of sections as a criterion. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 09:29, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- It could be tagged with {{sections}}, but a yellow-level tag would not preclude posting.—Bagumba (talk) 03:02, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support Article is good enough for RD. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 09:33, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Posted—Bagumba (talk) 03:00, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
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(Posted) RD: Srinivasa Prasad
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Hindu
Credits:
- Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
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Indian Politician.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 22:52, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support - Looks solid. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 23:07, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support article is ready to be posted. PrinceofPunjabTALK 03:39, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Posted—Bagumba (talk) 03:04, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
(Closed) Kenya dam failure
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Blurb: In Nakuru County, Kenya, a dam failure during ongoing floods kills at least 42 people. (Post)
News source(s): Time, The Guardian
Credits:
- Nominated by The Kip (talk · give credit)
- Created by Dora the Axe-plorer (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Guadeterre (talk · give credit)
- .Support on notability, oppose on quality This is a large and highly covered event. Article is getting there, but not quite ready to be posted. I can try to add more when I can. Guadeterre (talk) 23:54, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support on notability but article is not ready. LiamKorda 04:45, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Multiple sources [[1]], [[2]] in the article itself report that no dam failure has occurred, so why does this article even exist? Celjski Grad (talk) 10:36, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Good question. It should probably be redirected to 2024 Kenya floods, although that also says, incorrectly that it was a dam failure. Oppose in its current form at the moment btw, since there doesn't appear to have been one. Black Kite (talk) 10:43, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per Celjski Grad and Black Kite. PrinceofPunjabTALK 03:40, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
"Oppose per above This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 23:57, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- "The area has no dam" — Kenyan Ministry of Water, Sanitation and Irrigation. Oppose per above. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 12:41, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
(Closed) Changpeng Zhao (CZ) sentenced to prison
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Blurb: Changpeng Zhao (pictured), the founder of the crypto-exchange platform Binance, is sentenced to 4 months in prison and becomes the richest man to be sent to prison. (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:
- Nominated by Twistedaxe (talk · give credit)
Founder of Binance and an influential figure in the crypto world. TwistedAxe [contact] 23:25, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose he's being sent to prison based on allowing illegal behavior on his platform but nothing that he did illegally himself or in the company ... Four months is a slap on the wrist here (compare to the FTX founder's conviction) . And the aspect of being the richest person sent to jail is trivia, not news. Masem (t) 23:32, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per Masem, comparatively trivial sentence/conviction. The Kip 23:37, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Does not meet the high bar for a blurb. Thriley (talk) 20:24, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per above. PrinceofPunjabTALK 03:41, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per Masem. Makes it look bigger then it actually is. The world exactly as it ought to be (talk) 02:22, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
RD: Wally Dallenbach Sr.
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Yahoo Sports
Credits:
- Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Waluigithewalrus (talk · give credit) and RegalZ8790 (talk · give credit)
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American racing driver and official.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 22:40, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
Oppose - One paragraph is entirely unreferenced.— Chris Woodrich (talk) 22:28, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose career results section is unsourced. PrinceofPunjabTALK 03:43, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - I have addressed unreferenced sections, and added a fair use image. RegalZ8790 (talk) 23:46, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Can you please take a look now.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 00:48, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Crisco 1492 and @Pharaoh of the Wizards, please check if the article is now ready. This is my first time working on a candidate article; am I allowed to make a vote of support? RegalZ8790 (talk) 18:40, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- I meant to ping @PrinceofPunjab, sorry. RegalZ8790 (talk) 18:42, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support - Reference cleanup looks good now. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 18:44, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- Is there a REF for the date and place of birth, please? This should be mentioned in the main prose with a footnote or two. Thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 23:07, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
RD: Dingaan Thobela
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Washington Post
Credits:
- Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
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South African Boxer.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 16:23, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose needs more citations. Once this is fixed feel free to ping me so I can change vote. Aydoh8 (talk | contribs) 23:03, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose two cn tags and boxing record section is unsourced. PrinceofPunjabTALK 03:44, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
RD: Mykhaylo Fomenko
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Chron
Credits:
- Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
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former Ukraine Football coach.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 14:10, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose needs more sources. PrinceofPunjabTALK 15:25, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose not ready. LiamKorda 16:53, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
April 28
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RD:Brian McCardie
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Times Now
Credits:
- Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
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Actor.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 19:15, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose filmography section have no source. PrinceofPunjabTALK 03:45, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Filmography has remained unsourced. Please add more REFs. --PFHLai (talk) 23:01, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
RD: Bob Tyler
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Clarionledger
Credits:
- Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
American football coach. Needs some workPharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 22:12, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose orange tag and lack of sources. PrinceofPunjabTALK 15:25, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Too many footnote-free paragraphs. Please add more REFs. --PFHLai (talk) 23:00, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Vincent O'Sullivan
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): "Poet Sir Vincent O'Sullivan dead at 86". RNZ News. 29 April 2024. Retrieved 29 April 2024.
Credits:
- Nominated by Schwede66 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Chocmilk03 (talk · give credit) and Flipandflopped (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Nearly ready; some referencing still to do. Schwede66 21:34, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support I have done an overhaul and added references where they were missing in the poetry, plays, and librettos sections. I also addressed the cn tag in the background section. The article is now ready for RD IMHO, but further feedback is welcomed. FlipandFlopped ツ 03:07, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Good work, Flipandflopped. Came here to say the same; the article's now ready. Have added you to the credit line above for your efforts. Schwede66 03:18, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support - Comprehensive sourcing and article writing. Agree that it’s quite ready for posting. Jusdafax (talk) 05:11, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support article is ready to be posted. PrinceofPunjabTALK 15:26, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support. I note I'm still expanding the article as I have time, but am making sure that any additions are properly referenced. Cheers, Chocmilk03 (talk) 01:37, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Posted—Bagumba (talk) 04:47, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Jean-Pierre Ferland
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Radio-Canada, La Presse
Credits:
- Nominated by Roncanada (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit) and OGBC1992 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Canadian singer and songwriter. — Roncanada (talk) 2:59, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
Oppose an orange tag and discography is unsourced.PrinceofPunjabTALK 15:27, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- @PrinceofPunjab: hope you can take another look. —Bloom6132 (talk) 04:02, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support article is now ready. PrinceofPunjabTALK 05:16, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support – article is well-referenced and meets minimum depth of coverage for ITN after my edits. —Bloom6132 (talk) 04:02, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Posted—Bagumba (talk) 06:24, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
April 27
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(Posted) RD: C. J. Sansom
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Independent
Credits:
- Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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British writer.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 10:56, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support there are one or two unsourced sentences but I think article is good enough to be posted. PrinceofPunjabTALK 15:30, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Comment There's an outstanding orange tag about the lead being short.—Bagumba (talk) 06:02, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Can you please take a look.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 00:52, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support This has enough details & references. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 01:06, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- Posted to RD. SpencerT•C 03:43, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
(Closed) College protests against the Israel-Hamas War
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Blurb: Protests against the Israel-Hamas War shut down several college campuses in the United States. (Post)
News source(s): AP
Credits:
- Nominated by FelineHerder (talk · give credit)
Lead story on every news site now. --FelineHerder (talk) 23:20, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support ongoing – Constantly in the news, but there isn't really a central story for a blurb. I wouldn't oppose a blurb, though. DecafPotato (talk) 23:27, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Part of ongoing, and while there has been a lot of questionable actions, it has yet risen to where it should be its own blurb. --Masem (t) 00:44, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Unlike the mass graves nom below, these are definitively covered by ongoing, and not particularly materially different than any of the other protests during the war. The Kip 03:04, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per milionth time: covered by ongoing. And not that ITN-worthy. _-_Alsor (talk) 03:31, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose There have been protests in many countries about the war, we don't need to list it at ITN as soon as they happen in the US. AusLondonder (talk) 03:38, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose I echo the above. What makes a protest in the USA more significant than every other protest all over the world? HiLo48 (talk) 03:55, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- As an aside, the article does cover protests in other countries too. I would also say that the way the article is structured is poorly done - there are some of these protests that need to be called out in their own section like the UT Austin one, but most of the others just happened without any confrontation, and thus we don't need separate sections on each one - but as it is done now, it is the equivalent of a PROSELINE offense but applied to space and not time. That is, it is nowhere close to our best work. --Masem (t) 04:24, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose, for now Although I would like to note that I disagree with the above statements that something like this could never be notable. There is evidence that this thing is expanding globally to other Universities outside of the United States. If it continues to grow in scale and pace to rival the Vietnam anti-war movement, then we should revisit. FlipandFlopped ツ 02:14, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support Ongoing and culturally significant to the extent that the project be remiss not to have an ITN item for it Dreameditsbrooklyn (talk) 02:39, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- culturally significant….? _-_Alsor (talk) 05:29, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
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- Oppose protests that have no impact/effect are not worth posting Traumnovelle (talk) 08:50, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose because it is covered by ongoing. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 10:07, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose - it wasn't on 'every news site now' in the way the OP claims. But while this is an important story, I agree with other posters who point out that this is covered by ongoing. GenevieveDEon (talk) 10:33, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose it's a side-story to the war itself, we don't need to list every side-story to the war as well as the actual ongoing item for the war itself. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:35, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose "Students protest". Who knew? Making no practical impact on the overall conflict and not exactly the most unique ocurrance. Plus as above says, its already covered by ongoing. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 12:01, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose a sub-element to the war covered in ongoing. LukeSurl t c 12:25, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. A minor footnote to the war itself. Modest Genius talk 12:31, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose already covered in ongoing. Noah, AATalk 14:42, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose It is covered by an ongoing entry. PrinceofPunjabTALK 15:29, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per above. LiamKorda 16:52, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
RD: Joe Lartey
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Citinewsroom
Credits:
- Nominated by Heatrave (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Heatrave (talk) 13:05, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose several orange tags. PrinceofPunjabTALK 15:31, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose several issues. LiamKorda 09:54, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose for now. Several sections are entirely unreferenced. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:37, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Too many footnote-free paragraphs. Please add more REFs. --PFHLai (talk) 18:01, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Joko Pinurbo
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CNN Indonesia, Kompas
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Crisco 1492 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Indonesian poet. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 12:36, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
Oppose article needs work including more inline citation.PrinceofPunjabTALK 13:04, 27 April 2024 (UTC)- All items are cited, including the bibliography. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:35, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support the article is ready now. PrinceofPunjabTALK 15:32, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support citations are full article and article of satisfactory length. Juxlos (talk) 17:35, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Comment It's unclear what is the source for all the bulleted items at Joko_Pinurbo#Poetry_collections.—Bagumba (talk) 04:14, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Every single item aside from Haduh Aku di-Follow and the three-in-one Celana Pacarkecilku di Bawah Kibaran Sarung was already covered by the immediately preceding Kompas source. MI has been cited for Haduh, Kompas for everything else, and the tri-omnibus has been commented out (referencing the book itself is also an option, but given its status as a collection of previously published collections, it's not of the same prominence. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 09:47, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Crisco 1492: Somehow, if I go to translate.google.com and enter the Kompas url, it only shows two translated paragraphs. But if I look at the original, there's more paragraphs. I'll trust you that it's there. Sorry about that. —Bagumba (talk) 18:13, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- I think the way they've set up their paywall, it loads only the two paragraphs to start, checks if you meet certain criteria, and if you are allowed to read the whole thing it loads the remainder. Detik.com has a list, which I'll reference in the article. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 19:40, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Crisco 1492: Somehow, if I go to translate.google.com and enter the Kompas url, it only shows two translated paragraphs. But if I look at the original, there's more paragraphs. I'll trust you that it's there. Sorry about that. —Bagumba (talk) 18:13, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Every single item aside from Haduh Aku di-Follow and the three-in-one Celana Pacarkecilku di Bawah Kibaran Sarung was already covered by the immediately preceding Kompas source. MI has been cited for Haduh, Kompas for everything else, and the tri-omnibus has been commented out (referencing the book itself is also an option, but given its status as a collection of previously published collections, it's not of the same prominence. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 09:47, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Posted—Bagumba (talk) 06:16, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
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