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Create a level 4 header with the article name (==== Your article here ====). Add (RD) or (Ongoing) if appropriate.
Then paste the {{ITN candidate}} template with its parameters and fill them in. The news source should be reliable, support your nomination and be in the article. Write your blurb in simple present tense. Below the template, briefly explain why we should post that event. After that, save your edit. Your nomination is ready!
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Two Palestinian gunmen open fire in the Israeli city of Tel Aviv killing at least four people and injuring at least 18 others. The two gunmen are arrested. (AP)
Airstrikes in rebel-held districts of Aleppo kill at least 15 people and wound dozens while three hospitals are hit including one of the few that still provides pediatric services. UNICEF says medics had to take babies out of incubators. It is unclear who was responsible, though government forces, backed by the Russian Air Force, have run operations to regain control of the divided city. (BBC)(Deccan Chronicle)
A United Nations commission of inquiry says that Eritrea should be referred to the International Criminal Court for alleged crimes against humanity committed in the country, including the enslavement of between 300,000 and 400,000 people through military conscription. (AP)
A Papua New Guinea court grants an injunction barring university students from protesting on campus. Thousands of students across the nation have been protesting and boycotting classes for weeks calling for Prime MinisterPeter O'Neill's resignation over corruption allegations. (Reuters)
Eritrean Mered Medhanie, aka The General, leader of one of the largest criminal operations unsafely smuggling migrants from Africa to Europe for up to €5,000 (£3,900; $5,680), is extradited to Italy. Police say in one attempt at least 359 migrants died when their boat sank near the Italian island of Lampedusa in October 2013. (BBC)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Seven police officers and four civilians are killed, and 36 people are wounded, three critically, by a car bomb explosion near the main tourism district in Istanbul, Turkey. The explosives, detonated by remote control, wrecked a passing police bus, reports CNN Türk. There is no immediate claim of responsibility. (Reuters)(AP)
Turkish police detain four people for interrogation. (The Daily Star)
Kazakhstan police report the death toll from Sunday's attack in Aktobe is now 19 — three civilians, three National Guard servicemen, and 13 attackers. (Reuters)
A pickup truck reported to be driving erratically mowed down a group of nine bicycle riders, killing five and injuring four near Kalamazoo, Michigan. The driver was arrested after fleeing. Authorities have not established any contributing causes of what is being called the worst bicycle accident in the county. (The Atlantic)(CTV News)
Health and medicine
Johns Hopkins University researchers report, in the journal Health Affairs, that media reports about people accused of committing violent crimes having mental illnesses rarely discuss successful treatment of patients, and thereby overstate the problem. Most people exhibiting the types of psychological conditions the media mention are not generally violent. The researchers suggest coverage reinforces fear of mental illness and the people who have it, and, because of the social stigma, discourages people from seeking treatment. (UPI)(Health Affairs)
Nominator's comments: A grim death toll in one of the world's major cities. Tragically, the sixth such attack in the last 18 months. '''tAD''' (talk) 08:52, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Wait until the article is up to the necessary standards.Support on notability as this is a significant attack with a relatively high death toll in a normally peaceful city (the conflict is confined to the Kurdish regions in the southeast, the vast majority of the country is peaceful) that regardless of the recent bombings, is of great importance globally and is still an important tourist destination (1.75 million foreigners visited Turkey in April). For those who will doubt the notability of this, please contrast this with the 2016 Gaziantep bombing and May 2016 Dürümlü bombing, which we did not post. --GGT (talk) 11:22, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Wait. A peaceful city? This is the third bombing in Istanbul this year. Turkey currently experiences a constitutional crisis and is increasingly on the verge of a civil war. Following the immunity bill in combination with yesterday's replacement of 3,700 judges, the irreparable alienation of Turkish Kurds, the weakened position of Barzani in Iraqi Kurdistan, a total breakdown of the EU talks, a further deteriorating relationship to the U.S., the total failure of the Syria policy, culminating in the failure to forestall the Kurds in Manbij, we might even see another military coup. In this context, we can't post daily updates of the situation at WP:In the news, unless there is a very good article. Actually, an overview article on the overall situation currently unfolding in Turkey, possibly a timeline, would be helpful and might qualify as a candidate for an ongoing event. --PanchoS (talk) 12:15, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I think the previous user's mention of "peaceful" was in relation. There is gang crime in all large American cities, but all are "at peace" in that they are not occupied like for example Raqqa. There have been six bombings in Istanbul in the last 18 months. That stands out in comparison to any city in the European Union, but is "better" than cities currently in war in Syria and Iraq '''tAD''' (talk) 12:29, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – Unfortunately, this sort of thing has become so frequent in the region that one becomes inured to it. Not sure this instance is ITN material. OTOH, I see BBC, Reuters lead with it. Undecided. Sca (talk) 12:56, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Turkey is simply not Syria or Iraq and business is mostly as usual for civilians in the country, except for the southeast where the situation is completely distinct from the west and has been for the large part of the last four decades. Istanbul is not an embattled city, it is a peaceful one that is increasingly plagued by terrorism, but not to the extent of everyday slaughter, and we have every reason to post this major attack on a popular tourist spot (again, contrast with "minor" attacks, some listed above, or another blast targeting military in Istanbul recently that we don't even have an article about). If a third major attack hit Paris last year and killed 11, would we not post it (noting that the three attacks in Istanbul in 2015 were minor attacks and did not really affect the lives of the residents)? The political crisis unfolding is very grave but "the verge of a civil war" is the crucial point here. Turkey has been in perpetual political crisis for most of its republican history, that is no reason not to post it per se. As of today, there simply is no countrywide conflict in Turkey and life for people in major cities is not that greatly different from Paris perhaps, which remains under emergency rule. I repeat that 1.75 million people visited the country in April alone, which still makes it a major tourist destination, despite the ~30% drop in tourism. This alone IMHO justifies posting an attack close to a major tourist attraction. --GGT (talk) 12:50, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support article quality is sufficient for the main page: It's long enough, well written, and properly referenced. --Jayron3216:56, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support GGT's comments on the geographic distribution of 'terrorist' incidents in Turkey are obvious even to this casual, amateur observer of developments in Turkey. Let us hope this does not become endemic in Istanbul Province and possibly somehow spread to the rest of Thrace, i.e. Bulgaria or Greece. CaradhrasAiguo (talk) 22:36, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
A soldier is killed and another injured after a fire spread to an ammunition dump at the Salawa army camp near Sri Lanka's capital Colombo. Thousands of people in the area were evacuated. The fire is under control, according to a military spokesman. (AP)
Florida GovernorRick Scott declares a state of emergency as Tropical Storm Colin's rain and gusty winds pelt the state's west coast. Maximum sustained winds at 1:00 p.m. EDT are 50 mph (85 kpm). Between three and five inches of rain are forecast for northern Florida, with some areas getting up to eight inches. (Miami Herald)(NHC)
With more than 92% of the vote counted, Pedro Pablo Kuczynski is ahead of Keiko Fujimori by just over 103,000 votes, 50.3 percent to 49.6 percent, in the electorate of 23 million citizens. Ballots of Peruvians living abroad will begin to arrive tonight. Mariano Cucho, the head of the electoral office, says the count may not be finalized until Thursday or Friday. (CNN via WFXP)(Reuters)(Fox News Latino)
Haiti will redo its presidential election after findings of widespread voter fraud in last years voting. Additional measures will be put in place for the first round in October this year. (Fox News)
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Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Oppose I find it hard to imagine any chess player reaching the levels of the Bowie/Prince/Ali that get blurbs. This article needs more citations before it can be considered ready to post, and some of the "score" information is not comprehensible to me as a layperson who loses in chess every time I play, hence the oppose. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:37, 6 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Great progress. I tagged another spot that needs a citation. Then there's still the matter of text like this: "Korchnoi won by (+2−1=7)". I have no idea what sort of scoring system that is, or what to make of it. It probably makes sense to a chess expert. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:09, 6 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
OK. It means "Won 2 Lost 1 Drawn 7". I'm not sure we can go through every chess article fixing this (and I;m sure many other sports have arcane scoring rules that many people don't understand?). Laura Jamieson (talk)23:11, 6 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Actually no the scoring notation is not intuitive enough for non-chess players - both myself and Muboshgu were unable to parse it - to me "+2-1=7" looks like a broken equation or somehow wining with a total of 7 points (maybe 2 wins at 4 points each with 1 point docked for an infraction?). The way to fix this is either to be explicit on every occurrence or to explain it on the first occurrence - maybe "2 wins, 1 loss and 7 draws (+2-1=7)" or something. Thryduulf (talk) 00:25, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I think it's ready so I support. My comments about the scoring are more relevant for GAR than here anyway, but at least now I know what it means. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:49, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose blurb there is no way that a sports professional who was never world champion (or equivalent) and with no notable achievements outside their sport will ever be worthy of a blurb (that is for people who have had a truly exceptional impact on a very large number of people and whose death is major news in non-specialist media (e.g. Muhammad Ali, Margaret Thatcher, David Bowie). Thryduulf (talk) 22:54, 6 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Um, you do realise that notability is irrelevant to RD at the moment? Regardless, there are obits for Korchnoi all over the media from multiple locations (BBC, Guardian, Independent, Russia Today, Al-Jazeera etc). Laura Jamieson (talk)23:09, 6 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but notability is not irrelevant to blurbs (and this oppose is explicitly only opposing a blurb) and media coverage of the death is only one criterion and this does not meet that one - the coverage given to Jorchnoi is in no way comparable to that given to e.g. Prince or Ali. Thryduulf (talk) 00:18, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Read again, the first oppose is explicitly and specifically opposing a blurb and does so for reasons that are not fixable. This oppose is explicitly specifically opposing a recent deaths listing until the article has been improved. I chose to do it this way for added clarity. Thryduulf (talk) 00:18, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support RD now the citation issues have been fixed. I'd prefer if it were made more accessible but there seems opposition to this (see above). Thryduulf (talk) 00:30, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support RD. He may not be a household name in the U.S. but everybody who grew up behind the Iron Curtain, such as myself, certainly remembers the Karpov-Korchnoi matches which were presented as larger than life events in the Soviet Union and the Eastern Block, with Karpov symbolically representing the communist East and Korchnoi representing the capitalist West. Certainly a unique historical figure, even if he did not become a World Champion. Nsk92 (talk) 23:07, 6 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Marked ready for RD. Definitely qualified per trial, and likely qualified even absent the trial. Blurb discussion can continue, though consensus seems leaning against. Newyorkbrad (talk) 23:21, 6 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support RD, blurb. He may not be so well remembered by non-chessplayers today but for those of us who were around in 1978 his match with Karpov was all over the news, there was even a regular TV series on BBC. As with the Fischer-Spassky match the cold war angle got a lot of publicity. He's notable all right. MaxBrowne (talk) 00:09, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose blurb per Thryduulf. Korchnoi's death is big news in the chess world, but I doubt even the death of someone like Kasparov would qualify for ITN. Deaths in ITN blurbs should involve widespread non-specialist coverage, and Korchnoi just doesn't qualify. Kasparov might, because he's both involved in politics and was the first human champion to lose to a computer, but even then I think it's unlikely. Banedon (talk) 03:54, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support RD, Oppose blurb - I'm a chess tragic and major contributor to many chess articles, but I can't support a blurb. It barely touched the radar on most mainstream news sources. I support RD though. In chess there have been 11 world champions in the 70-odd years since WW2, and Korchnoi's 3 narrow losses to Karpov means he's probably the most significant non champion. So that makes him roughly the 12th most important player in 70 years, which means the chess world probably gets a death of his significance once every 5 years on average. Adpete (talk) 06:44, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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RD: Peter Shaffer
Article:Peter Shaffer (talk·history·tag) Recent deaths nomination (Post) News source(s):BBC Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
He's very notable: Equus, Amadeus. The lack of sources reflects a lack of effort by previous editors, not a comment on the deceased. I'll be busy watching baseball tonight, and confirming Trump as the next president of the US tomorrow. In the meantime, most of the CN's in that article are refworthy--if someone else wants to do it. μηδείς (talk) 21:05, 6 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
English/American comedian John Oliver buys and then forgives $15,000,000 (USD) in medical debt to about 9,000 people, making it the biggest ever giveaway in television history. (CNN)
Firefighters have contained about 80 percent of the 516-acre brush fire in Calabasas, California. Evacuation orders affecting at least 5,000 people in the Los Angeles area are being lifted. The fire started yesterday when a pickup truck struck a power pole. (CNN)(NBC News)
Amid frustrations with the ongoing economic crisis, Puerto Rican Democrats vote in the Commonwealth's primary with front-runner Hillary Clinton forecast to win following yesterday's sweep in the Virgin Islands' caucus, moving even closer to locking up her party's presidential nomination. There are 60 pledged delegates at stake. (AP via U.S. News & World Report)(CNN)
Hillary Clinton wins Puerto Rico's Democratic presidential primary and, according to the Associated Press, is now less than 30 delegates short of the 2,383 needed to win the nomination. (AP)(NPR)
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Oppose at this time. A relatively minor crash, and reading the BBC article it sounds like they already suspect what might have happened (a lightning strike affecting signals). 331dot (talk) 10:06, 6 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Iff the lightning strike was the cause of the accident, then it is a significant development. Modern signalling systems are supposed to be immune from such events, and should always fail safe. As the article states, the cause is "under investigation". It is not our job to pre-judge the cause. Mjroots (talk) 10:11, 6 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Leaving aside the alleged lightning strike, which I stated was only suspected, it's still a relatively minor accident. 331dot (talk) 10:21, 6 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
oppose unless and until it becomes clear that it has more significance than it appears to have on the surface - the lightning strike theory appears to be principally (exclusively?) media speculation at this point. I note we didn't post the Dalfsen train crash in February and this strikes me as a similar scale of event to that. Thryduulf (talk) 10:18, 6 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - People are unfortunately dead but this is not a catastrophe that stands out in any way, the lightning hypothesis aside '''tAD''' (talk) 20:29, 6 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Article needs updating The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
Oppose appalling state, some wrong tenses, plenty of unreferenced sections, almost embarrassing that it has been nominated, even if it is ITNR. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:44, 6 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hillary Clinton picks up six out of seven pledged delegates in the V.I. caucus. (AP via ABC News)
Science and technology
Scientists report, in the AHA journal Stroke, that a small trial of stroke victims showed significant improvement following injection of stem cells directly into their brains. The study had been designed just to test whether the highly experimental therapy was safe. Such treatments were available in China for many years but treatment results were very inconclusive. (Tech Insider)(Stroke)
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The missing flight has been on the media, and the article has been updated. However, while the investigation is ongoing, and we pray condolences to the victims and survivors' loved ones, I don't see anything newer and fresher in the blurbsprose, even when the latest blurbprose update was two days ago (June 2). I think a blurb can do when the missing flight is found or something more newsworthy. --George Ho (talk) 18:06, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Remove now we have a more concrete date for an update, i.e. 9/10 June for recovery of black boxes and then a couple of days to analyse whether this was just an accident (which probably won't be restored to ITN) or a terrorist act (which probably would be restored to ITN). The Rambling Man (talk) 19:05, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
Nominator's comments: Ahead of pre-race favourite US Army Ranger. Article has a sizable build-up, but lacks a race summary. Fuebaey (talk) 16:46, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
Comment added altblurb and suggest waiting till tomorrow to post. Article needs match summaries for both in the mean time. Fuebaey (talk) 16:50, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Please take general discussions on ITN images over to the talk page
Whenever this makes it to the main page, it should not replace Ali's picture in the template. The French Open happens every year, we only had one Muhammed Ali. — Coffee // have a cup // beans // 19:06, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure that's a legitimate complaint I'm afraid. Once we do that sort of thing for Ali we open a box of worms. If we have decent pictures of the French Open winner(s), we use them, Wikipedia isn't a memorial, after all. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:20, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I have to concur with Coffee. Ali's death is far more significant of a news item than this reoccurring sports event that barely makes the back pages of the newspapers here. - Floydianτ¢21:54, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Well you're welcome to concur but the whole world does not revolve around boxing. Until Wikipedia becomes a memorial website, the image will be replaced as appropriate, cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:05, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict)I agree with TRM, the image used for ITN is always associated with the most recent blurb for which we have a suitable image. If you want to change that, make a proposal at Wikipedia talk:In the news that defines an alternative method of choosing which image to use. Until such a proposal gains consensus the current system will remain in place. Thryduulf (talk) 22:15, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Who cares about a photo of Ali? *sarcasm* We are not memorial, so I don't mind a photo of a female tennis player replacing Ali. Also, support original blurb and then update after the men's single tournament. George Ho (talk) 00:03, 5 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Also, per ITN rules, arguments about ethics and morals may be debunked. They have been done before; I have done it before. Rebutters did that to me, so arguments about making tribute a top priority will be debunked and rebutted somehow, right? George Ho (talk) 00:07, 5 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I tried to say that arguments about commemorating a deceased person by holding a photo aren't sufficient enough to not switch images. I guess that came off in the confusing, ambiguous way. George Ho (talk) 08:27, 5 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose new image. We have IAR for this exact reason. Few people are impactful outside their field, as Cassius Clay did much more outside boxing than most people alive. That doesn't mean keep his image for a week, but definitely not for just a day. Nergaal (talk) 06:47, 5 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose regardless of issues of blurb or Ali image retention, the bold-linked article is not ready. Cited summaries of both finals are required. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:53, 5 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Blurb should mention Djokovic's Non-calendar year Grand Slam (rather than career Grand Slam) - he is the first male to hold all 4 Grand Slam singles' titles since 1969, and only the 3rd male in history. Adpete (talk) 23:36, 5 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@98.23.91.118: because the article does not yet meet the quality standards required - there is virtually no prose in the article at all, let alone well-written and well-referenced prose. Thryduulf (talk) 22:45, 6 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
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Support, most famous person on earth, by some accounts. this is one of the few natural deaths that absolutely should be in the news not just recent deaths.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 04:45, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support but hold, until article can be cleaned up. Currently sitting at a B-class article. At a minimum, we need to resolve the CN tags. Nakon04:49, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Suggestion: I created this nomination so that a blurb would be ready to go, but I'd like to merge this with the below pre-death nomination, as support for a blurb appears to be overwhelming at this point. -Kudzu1 (talk) 04:49, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I'm open to adding an image. Please let me know if you find any that would be acceptable for the main page. Thanks, Nakon05:36, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Memorial - We've never done something like this, but in this particular case, I think it's appropriate. Let's freeze the Ali death blurb and photo at the top of ITN for a week or so. This was an extremely important individual and I think it would be fitting if he received treatment as such on the Wikipedia front page. --WaltCip (talk) 23:38, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I can't agree with that. ITN (and Wikipedia generally) is not a memorial; it is an area for featuring content that it in the news. We have never done this before, even though we have had deaths of people at least as important as Ali (Mandela, for instance, strikes me as more important). The precedent could not be limited to Ali (nor should it). This would just beget more arguments over whether so-and-so deserves a memorial. Neljack (talk) 23:57, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose memorial as that's not what Wikipedia in general or ITN in particular is for. We didn't do it for Thatcher, Mandela, Michael Jackson, David Bowie, Prince, Pope John Paul II or anyone else who could be argued to be at least as important as Ali, and we shouldn't start now. It will only cause unnecessary arguments about where the threshold should be and who meets it and who doesn't - Elizabeth II? Bhumibol Adulyadej? George H. W. Bush? Bill Gates? Recep Tayyip Erdoğan? 14th Dalai Lama? Pope Benedict XVI? Michael Jordan? Michael Schumacher? What if two people who meet the threshold die within a week of each other? What if there was a major world news story 6-days after their death - would that push them off the top spot? If so, what would the threshold for that be? Thryduulf (talk) 00:44, 5 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I see no need to discuss this in terms of a memorial. I would say that we should simply leave the image up as the blurb ages, unless we have more timely news and an image to replace it. μηδείς (talk) 19:13, 5 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, and that will happen imminently so that's why there's a furore about Ali's image disappearing, per MEMORIAL there's no issue with that at all. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:24, 5 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Support RD now, blurb on improvements The article is not in good shape, there's at least 4 citation needed tags, one section is tagged as outdated, and the section above it lacks citations on several paragraphs. Fixable, yes, so an RD posting in the short term is fine, but a blurb will need these fixed. --MASEM (t) 04:36, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Items should not be posted to RD and then bumped up to blurb once they are up to snuff; they should be posted to RD/blurb or not at all. SpencerT♦C04:38, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support him being in main news, not just recent deaths. by some accounts, the most beloved person on earth, the most, easily the most famous. not merely equal to bowie and prince. equal to pope john paul 2Mercurywoodrose (talk) 04:44, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support blurb Olympic gold medal winner, champion, social activist, legendary figure not just in US but worldwide. Equal in stature to David Bowie and Prince, whom we ran blurbs on without question. Daniel Case (talk) 04:45, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The flood waters for the Seine River are expected to peak at six metres above its normal level. Flooding in France and Germany has so far claimed at least 11 lives. (BBC)
Bodies of 117 people, including 75 women, 36 men and six children, are recovered from a beach near Zuwarah, Libya, possibly from yesterday's capsize in the Mediterranean Sea. (CNN)
Greek authorities rescue 340 people from a boat carrying around 700 migrants that capsized 75 nautical miles off the Greek island of Crete. So far nine bodies have been recovered. (U.S. News & World Report)(CNN)
FIFA shares results of their investigation with legal authorities showing former president Sepp Blatter and two others gave themselves nearly $80 million over the past five years via annual raises and World Cup bonuses. (NPR)
Article:Luis Salom (talk·history·tag) Recent deaths nomination (Post) News source(s):BBC Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Support I've fixed some tense issues, and it's mostly good but the death article could do with more tweaking from people who know bike racing, but I suspect this will happen organically and it isn't enough to make me oppose. Thryduulf (talk) 20:10, 5 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Lead says: "He has been described by Ashley Hutchings as 'the most influential [British] fiddle player bar none' and his style has been copied or developed by almost every British, and many world folk violin players who have followed him." 217.38.94.178 (talk) 19:32, 3 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support - I agree, immensely notable. Very few paragraphs are without a source. Does every album in the entire list (about 150) need a separate source? 217.38.83.120 (talk) 22:14, 3 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"Does every album in the entire list (about 150) need a separate source?" The situation is similar to very many other musician articles, where a single source often covers the vast majority of official recordings. Is this all that is preventing posting? 217.38.88.202 (talk) 14:34, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I have removed all of the discography apart from Swarbrick's solo albums (cited) and a link to the Fairport Convention discography. It is generally agreed that we do not list appearances on other artist's albums in the main article (though the removed material could be used in a putative Dave Swarbrick discography article). I've marked this ready again. Laura Jamieson (talk)16:02, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I would be content with a single source or a few sources citing all those albums, that wouldn't be a problem. The issue I had was that most of the works did not have a Wikipedia article so there was literally no way for our readers to verify their existence, let alone their attribution to Swarbrick. I'll take a look at the updated article. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:16, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Post posting support. An incredibly important musician in both the British folk revival and in popular fiddle playing in the 20th century. His albums with Martin Carthy certainly deserve to be restored to his article, possibly also the Fairport Convention albums. Adequate sourcing for these is really a non-issue. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:01, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
In Smyrna, Tennessee, Captain Jeff "Kooch" Kuss, a pilot of the aerobatic team Blue Angels is killed attempting a Split S. The cause was pilot error. (USNI News)
In Columbus, Ohio, a 7 month old baby is killed in his stroller when a woman driving alone with a learning permit jumped the curb, hit his father and the child and crashed into a building. No cause of the crash has been established. (WBNS-10TV)
24 people are killed and 368 arrested in the Indian city of Mathura as police attempt to clear members of a squatter group from land they are occupying. (The Times of India)
In Ottawa, Canada Marc Leduc is found guilty first-degree murder in the killings of two women found dead in 2008 and 2011 involved in drugs and sex trade. His DNA was matched after he was arrested in a 2012 sex assault with a knife. (CTV News)
Catholics in France and Belgium are recovering from ISIS attacks including numerous acts of violence and aggression, fires set in churches, an assault on a priest, the desecration of a tabernacle and the hacking of more than 100 Catholic websites. (Catholic News Agency)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Notability concerns - I'm not familiar with the topic area but it doesn't seem like he meets the notability criteria at WP:NBASEBALL (he hasn't played in any of the major leagues listed) and there is nothing else in the article that suggests he meets the GNG. Unless there is more evidence of notability I wouldn't be voting keep if this was nominated at AfD. Thryduulf (talk) 19:29, 3 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
What on earth have naming conventions got to do with notability? Verifiability is also independent of notability - just because something is verifiable doesn't mean it's notable. Thryduulf (talk) 22:45, 3 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Any concerns regarding the topic's notability should be addressed in an AFD for the article. As it is, the article exists and so it is eligible for RD under the trial. I know that a few of you here are not pleased with the trial, but for now, it's as good as law on ITN.--WaltCip (talk) 21:24, 3 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support per Walt, the article was created a year ago, so it can hardly be argued that this is ready for deletion, after all it could have happened for a while. In any case, it's half-decent and probably something that a certain section of our readership will be looking for. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:46, 3 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Weak support - what's there is good and seems well referenced, but it would be good if there was something about his pre-2010 career. Thryduulf (talk) 00:18, 3 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support just what Thryduulf said, good content but a little on the light side. Under trial conditions it would just about make it it's fine. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:20, 3 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support - An honored and highly notable figure in his field. As noted, article is a bit thin, but will hopefully be expanded further. Jusdafax01:25, 4 June 2016 (UTC)°[reply]
Nominator's comments: Flash flooding occurring in Austria, France and Germany. Has caused 9 deaths in Germany, museum closures in Paris and delayed matches at the French Open. Article is new and could do with some more expansion. Fuebaey (talk) 16:39, 2 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Wait and correct. It is not central but western Europe. There are no significant damage or high causalities except area of flash flooding in Baden-Württemberg. Louvre is in danger but not damaged, same in whole Paris. There are some rivers with record flooding in France, but not Seine river which is not expected to rising over six meters in Paris. But yes it is developing story so we should wait. --Jenda H. (talk) 08:14, 3 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support - 14 deaths in 4 different countries, with the Louvre closed? Notable and blurb-worthy. I have updated the death toll, and mention of the Louvre in the blurb is recommended. Jusdafax13:47, 3 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support per above. Affects multiple countries. Makes it more notable than the Oklahoma floods which only affected one portion of one country.--WaltCip (talk) 17:13, 3 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Natural disasters don't respect geopolitical borders, so "number of countries affected" should absolutely not be a consideration. The land area affected by both floods is about the same, and with about the same present death tolls, we're still talking the same ratio of deaths per area affected, making the two floods equivalent. Either both are posted or neither should be, barring any further updates on deaths. --MASEM (t) 17:22, 3 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Agree with Lugnuts. Add the threat to, and closure of, international treasures, and you have an ITN-level story, as I see it. Jusdafax19:39, 3 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
We should not be caring about page views in considering two events of the same type that have had similar effects (in this case, death toll). There has been no reported damage to the Lourve yet, its simply closed to move artwork in case of rising waters (though I would agree that if serious damage to masterpieces had occurred that might be a better ITN story), so just because there's a threat doesn't mean that makes it any more ITN than the flooding aspect alone. The only argument that is valid is the stubbiness of the OK/TX flood article, but that can be fixed. But I go back to my original !vote - this is not as significant as people are making it out to be. It rains in the Northern Hemisphere in the spring and that sometimes causes flooding, news at 11. Yes, the loss of life in both situations is sad, but far from what we'd call a disaster that we'd otherwise not post. There's nothing special here (yet) to make the European flooding any different from the OK/TX flooding beyond location. --MASEM (t) 20:34, 3 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support floods, while not in the US, are making significant news stories across Europe and have been for a few days now. To claim this isn't in the news, or newsworthy is either ignorant or biased or a combination. The Seine is about five or six metres (that's about 20 feet for you lot) above where it should be. This is serious and it's ITN. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:53, 3 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support I agree with Masem's analysis that this is a pretty minor event. Though, the death toll is now at 16, which nears the point at which we usually post natural disasters. Mamyles (talk) 22:26, 3 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support In the news, decent quality article. Please show me where we agreed upon a minimum death toll required for posting. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:31, 3 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I've fixed a few wordings that stuck out, and though short, the article is ready for the Main page. Suggest second blurb, of course. Jusdafax01:19, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Greg Abbott, the Governor of the US state of Texas, declares a disaster in 31 counties due to floods which have claimed several lives in recent days. (KVUE)
A convoy carrying much-needed nutritional and medical aid reaches the besieged town Darayya, the first time since 2012. The only food delivered was baby milk. A 48-hour ceasefire for the town came into force today. (Reuters)(NPR)(BBC)
A man in Plano, Texas, stabs his girlfriend and posts her dead body to Facebook; the social media website does not remove the photograph for 36 hours. (The New York Times)
German police are investigating 26 sexual assault reports from this weekend's Schlossgrabenfest music festival near Darmstadt. In one case, three women reported being groped by groups of men Saturday. Police have detained three Pakistani immigrants, and expect more reports following this announcement. (CNN)(UPI)(The Independent)
Richard Huckle, dubbed "Britain's worst ever paedophile" after being convicted of 71 cases of rape and other sexual offences against up to 200 children, is being sentenced at The Old Bailey in London in a hearing expected to last 3 days. Huckle is facing up to 22 life sentences once the hearing concludes. (Sky News)
Support - with this kind of event, I think the launch of the offensive is reason enough to post, and the blurb can be updated as the results arrive. Problem with waiting is that there may not be a clear "post now" result. Banedon (talk) 01:04, 3 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Rupert Neudeck, Founder of Cap Anamur and Green Helmets refugee-rescue groups, dies at 77. Sca (talk) 14:44, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support once the article has been expanded quite a bit, clarifying Neudeck's considerable impact. I'll take care about that by tonight. --PanchoS (talk) 16:14, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nearly there. The lead needs expanding and the sentence in the early life section "Thus, he was a refugee during his childhood." needs explanation as "missing a boat" ∴ "was a refugee" doesn't make sense to me - I feel like have missed a sentence or two. Thryduulf (talk) 00:23, 3 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thryduulf, the Wilhelm Gustloff sinking in January 1945 resulted in an estimated 9,000+ deaths, mostly of civilians. Since only 1,200 of those crowded onto the ship were rescued, it's very likely that the Neudecks would have been among the dead had they been aboard. However, I added the qualifier: "...probably saved their lives." Sca (talk) 22:06, 3 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
That they didn't die and why they didn't die is fine. What isn't clear is why not dying on the ship means he was a refugee - the logic to someone not at all familiar with the events is "missed ship (and so didn't die) → stayed where they were → not refugee" as to be a refugee you have to have moved somewhere. Clearly therefore if he was a refugee there is one or more events missing from the narrative. Thryduulf (talk) 19:21, 3 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
As the article says in the second paragraph, "large numbers of German civilians were being evacuated from eastern Germany." The total evacuated by sea from then-German Baltic ports in January-April 1945 was estimated by a postwar commission at 1.3 million. None would ever return to their former domiciles, which after the war were annexed by Poland or the Soviet Union. Thus, all were refugees. (The fact that they were German, and Germany was the hated aggressor in WWII, doesn't change that.) Sca (talk) 22:06, 3 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Removed confusing fragment.Help needed with the German launguage references. He clearly was a refugee during his childhood, but "Google Translate" does not give me a clear picture on that part of his life.Gabs Blue Labs (talk) 00:57, 3 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's comments: Finally a newsworthy article that is not about politics, sports nor a horrible incident. Clearly notable inauguration of one of the major engineering projects of this century. PanchoS (talk) 06:39, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Absolutely massive undertaking. Today is the official "opening ceremony", so it feels appropriate. Technically that's just a celebration of the bore being completed, it will be several months before it is actually used by trains. Dragons flight (talk) 08:34, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. According to our list of longest tunnels in the world, there are actually two subway tunnels that are longer than GBT. I believe GBT is the longest tunnel for general purpose trains, but is there a clearer way to capture the distinction beyond just saying "railway tunnel"? I imagine that people could legitimately be confused about whether a subway train tunnel counts as railway tunnel or not. Dragons flight (talk) 08:46, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) Oppose as worded; you wouldn't guess it from the lazy journalism of the press reports (or from Wikipedia's own article for that matter), but the GBT is by no measure "the longest railway tunnel in the world". It's quite a bit shorter than Guangzhou Line 3. ‑ Iridescent08:47, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately, journalists are quite often too lazy to doublecheck the facts. But in this case, they're correct. For the time being, Gotthard is the longest railway tunnel in the world. Throughout literature, subway tunnels are usually excluded,[1][2] even the Chinese Wikipedia does, so it's no Western bias. For a number of reasons long subway sections constitute a quite different kind of engineering feat, less because subways were a totally different thing, but mainly because subway lines usually consist of multiple, interconnected tunnels. Therefore, some WP:RS even consider the Gotthard the overall largest (transportation) tunnel in the world.[3][4] If need be, we can still be more specific, considering Gotthard the longest and deepest mountain tunnel in the world, obviously corresponding to the longest and deepest base tunnel in the world. --PanchoS (talk) 09:48, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
This would be a very good reason to expand that crappy stub base tunnel. For the time being, we could leave the link out, and add it later, as soon as the article is expanded and improved. Feel free to add alternative proposals what to include in the blurb! Regards, PanchoS (talk) 10:22, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, a comprehensive translation of de:Eisenbahntunnel (German: railway tunnel) which includes a section on base tunnels, seems to be the most useful undertaking. If you guys agree that's the way to go, I could assign to that task to be completed by tonight. --PanchoS (talk) 10:34, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support alternative blurb. A category for the 10 base tunnel articles we have might be useful as well. How many base tunnels are there around the world that could have articles? Carcharoth (talk) 10:48, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
There already is one, see Category:Base tunnels. But unlike the "crappy stub" base tunnel suggests, not all base tunnels are railroad tunnels – Tauern Road Tunnel and Mont Blanc Tunnel are base tunnels, too. Actually, "base tunnels" might be a bit problematic to categorize – while the biggest ones are clear cases, quite some smaller tunnels can be considered "base tunnels", too, though nobody would refer to them as such. An article works much better to list those that clearly are base tunnels as opposed to crest or summit tunnels. --PanchoS (talk) 11:23, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
No, I think it should work as a category, too. In the end, the definition of "mountain pass" is a bit fuzzy, too, at least in the transient area, but still we can handle that problem. And if an overwhelming majority of reliable sources doesn't refer to a particular tunnel as a "base tunnel", then it should be left out, otherwise it may be included. --PanchoS (talk) 11:55, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Posted. In view of the opinions mentioned above, I have merged the two suggested blurbs (and added "mainline", to distinguish it from subways - the Guangzhou Metro tunnel is longer, but it's cut-and-cover, which is a very different type of tunnel). Smurrayinchester12:41, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Any particular reason the American 'mainline', rather than the English 'main line' was used? Last time I checked, Switzerland was in Europe. 131.251.254.154 (talk) 13:53, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Smurrayinchester: Thanks for posting! However, while "deepest mountain tunnel" would be correct, "deepest mainline railway tunnel" depends on how you're calculating depth. The Seikan Tunnel is 240m below sea-level, whereas the Gotthard Base Tunnel is 312m above sea-level, though it is 2,300m below the mountain peak. I'm also not too fond of the clumsy "mainline railway tunnel". Almost all sources refer to the tunnel as the world's "longest rail(way) tunnel", some referring to it as the overall "longest tunnel".[5] At the same time I can't find a single (!) source referring to Guangzhou Metro Line 3 as the world's "longest tunnel", simply as Metro/subway lines usually aren't considered regular tunnels. If that's really unacceptable for us, I'd rather suggest "the world's longest and deepest mountain tunnel", as cited by the India Times.[6] Another option would be "the world's longest and deepest overland tunnel" which was previously attributed to the Lötschberg Tunnel by Goel/Singh/Zhao (2012)[3] and the Washington Post (2007),[7] and clearly excludes city tunnels (re: length of Line 3) and undersea tunnels (re: depth of Seikan). --PanchoS (talk) 15:51, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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