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Wikipedia:WikiProject Tamil cinema

I have just created this Wikiproject. However, it is a very excruciating and straining process to complete the page. Will someone please help? Or is there a template I can copy and just change names? --Kailash29792 (talk) 15:37, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

Should Wikipedia:WikiProject Oshwah really be in the Wikiproject namespace?

Wikipedia:WikiProject Oshwah started out as an April Fool's Day joke, but has since evolved into a fan page/social site. Should this be moved somewhere else, perhaps to userspace, or even outright deleted per WP:NOT? Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 20:57, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

In my opinion delete it or at a bare minimum move it into Oshwah's userspace, although there is precedent for us turning a blind eye to individual editors having their own personal WikiProjects. ‑ Iridescent 21:09, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

To my knowledge, while Oshwah is aware of the site's existence, he was not involved in its creation or upkeep, so we'd have to ask him if he'd want to host it. - BilCat (talk) 21:16, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

@Oshwah: - BilCat (talk) 21:29, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

LOL... it doesn't matter to me. Do whatever you feel is the right thing to do. If you want to move it to my user space, have at it. ;-) You can throw it over to User:Oshwah/WikiProject Oshwah and it'll continue to sit there without my direct involvement but gather some smiles and some good laughs. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:09, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Or your can just turn a blind eye... after all, it's just a humor page. We have lots of those in the Wikipedia space. :-P ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:11, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Also, wow.... LOL. I just now visited that page for the first time since I can remember. That's hilarious!! And all over my ridiculous and stupid hair... haha ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:13, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

No doubt it hilarious. I just wasn't sure the community wanted it in projectspace. - BilCat (talk) 22:36, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

I've removed the Wikiproject tag, and clarified in the Q&A that it's not a real Wikiproject. Well see what happens next. - BilCat (talk) 22:43, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Merging WikiProjects

Also asked at WP:Village_pump_(technical) and WT:WikiProject Merge

Hello, There's talk about possibly merging WP:MCB, WP:GEN, WP:BIOP and possibly WP:COMBIO (discussion). I've a few questions:

1. What's the most logical way to merge their talk page archives? Are there useful precedents?
2. What's the easiest way to merge the various talk page templates whilst retaining some sort of 'task force' tag similar to {{wikiproject medicine}}? Because of the overlapping scopes, many talk pages have have two or three of them.
3. If the projects, WP:MCB has the most equivalents in other languages. Is it logical to effectively merge into it and rename, or effectively tart a new one from scratch?
4. What other processes would been to be done to complete a merge? WP:WikiProject Cell Signaling was just sort of abandoned, and I'd be keen to avoid something similar.

Let me know if there's anything else I'm not thinking of! T.Shafee(Evo&Evo)^talk 05:11, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

I like the idea of merging Wikiprojects. I know of a few that could be merged. Also, merging multiple low-participation projects may make the resulting project more active. Unity and coordination will make Wikiproject system work. PrussianOwl (talk) 01:27, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

As a note for the record here, I've found the page with some relevant information on merging WikiProjects (with the option of turning the original projects into taskforces) at this link: WP:WikiProject_Council/Guide/Task_forces#Converting_existing_projects_to_task_forces. T.Shafee(Evo&Evo)^talk 01:48, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

T.Shafee, I'd add that the most important thing is that everyone involved agree to a merge. It's no good trying to forcibly merge away some other group's WikiProject pages. If the other group is completely inactive, then of course nobody is there to object, but for anyone who is present, it needs to be purely voluntary. WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:36, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

It would have been helpful had the original poster used the full titles of these pages instead of the shorthand versions. Thanks for letting me vent. I will now click on them to see what they mean. Sincerely, BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 03:52, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

Having done that, I abstain. Yours, BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 03:55, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 14

Newsletter • June 2019

Updates: I've been focusing largely on the development side of things, so we are a lot closer now to being ready to actually start discussing deploying it and testing it out here.

There's just a few things left that need to be resolved:

• A bunch of language support issues in particular, plus some other release blockers, such as the fact that currently there's no good way to find any hubs people do create.
• We also probably need some proper documentation and examples up to even reference if we want a meaningful discussion. We have the extension documentation and some test projects, but we probably need a bit more. Also I need to be able to even find the test projects! How can I possibly write reports about this stuff if I can't find any of it?!

Some other stuff that's happened in the meantime:

• Midpoint report is out for this round of the project, if you want to read in too much detail about all the problems I've been running into.
• WikiProject Molecular Biology have successfully set up using the old module system that CollaborationKit is intended to replace (eventually), and it even seems to work, so go them. Based on the issues they ran into, it looks like the members signup thing on that system has some of the same problems as we've been unable to resolve in CK, though, which is... interesting. (Need to change the content model to the right thing for the formwizard config to take. Ugh, content models.)

Until next time,

-— Isarra ༆ 21:43, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Myrtle Beach

I'm not sure what's typically done with abandoned WikiProjects, but Wikipedia:WikiProject Myrtle Beach is completely inactive and the project's page has just become a spam magnet. -- Ed (Edgar181) 18:15, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

@Edgar181: what is typically done is tagging it as inactive, which I just did. If the page is also a spam magnet, I would also suggest you request it be edit-protected. UnitedStatesian (talk) 04:47, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for your help. I have indefinitely semi-protected to page to stop the ongoing addition of inappropriate external links, with a note that it can be unprotected if the WikiProject is ever reactivated. -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:40, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

If it becomes clear that the inactivity truly is permanent, you can send it to WP:MFD. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 16:55, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

My read of recent MfDs is: if there was ever any activity, the WikiProject is very unlikely to be deleted. YMMV, of course. UnitedStatesian (talk) 04:11, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Inactive geographically-oriented WikiProjects, if they are well and truly inactive, can be merged to the nearest related WikiProject. In this case, you'd propose a merge to Wikipedia:WikiProject South Carolina. WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:38, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Help with aspects of starting a new project?

Hi everybody. Not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but I've proposed a new project and I'm finding some of the things I'm meant to put together on the proposal page to be somewhat arcane. Where can I get some hands-on help?

Many thanks!

Cadar (talk) 14:56, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello @Cadar:: I am happy to help; I responded on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Climate Change to your specific query there. Please post any additional questions here or there and I will try to answer. The proposal is coming along nicely, thanks for your work on that. UnitedStatesian (talk) 16:28, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Many thanks! Your help is most appreciated OK, so I'll direct all future questions to you on the talk page for the proposal.

Cadar (talk) 17:03, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

When and how is it OK to use newsletter delivery bots?

Quote: Newsletter delivery bots can help with delivering project newsletters to the project participants who have signed up. Are there any guidelines besides WP:COMMONSENSE on when is it OK to send a newsletter to the participants of a WikiProject? For example, since 7 June 2019 there have been a lot of notifications for userbox category discussions over at WT:UB, but it seems that most participants either do not watch the project's page, don't check their watchlist, or just don't care enough to participate. Would it be OK to send out a big newsletter advertising these discussions? What about inviting members to participate in one of its tasks? Do the newsletters contain information on how to unsubscribe? Are there any recommendations on how to format a newsletter? —⁠andrybak (talk) 23:08, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

Converting a taskforce to a project

What happens to the "task force" page when the group upgrades to stand-alone project status? NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 03:57, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

I'm not sure I've ever seen a need for such a thing. You can just redirect the task force page--the same as if a full project became a task force. --Izno (talk) 04:22, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

makes sense, thanksNewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 08:20, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Please advise on the importance of importance

Wisdom of experienced project space eds is sought, on the question of why bother doing importance assessment, and how to convert prior assessments when a child task force grows up into a standalone (daughter) project? Please add your thoughts to the thread here. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 11:41, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Climate change task force to WikiProject: can a bot help us?

There is currently a proposal underway to transfer the climate change task force into a WikiProject (now under the inactive WikiProject Environment). There are loads of articles tagged to belong the the task force. Is any of the current bots able to move all of these assessments to a new WikiProject? If not, would it be feasible for some of our programmer heros to make such a bot without much effort? Femke Nijsse (talk) 18:10, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

@Femkemilene: Sure, I can do it with DannyS712 bot - just let me know what you want changed. --DannyS712 (talk) 18:12, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Awesome....NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 18:34, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Possible bot request

@DannyS712: I saw your offer to assist with automated tasks above. I'm curious, can you have bots do things like change uses of {{WikiProject Wikipedia Saves Public Art}} and {{WikiProject WSPA}} to {{WikiProject Public Art}}, and similar tasks? Seems like a minor request, since both redirect to the correct template, but I run across these all the time and I get tired of 'fixing' them manually? Just curious if you might someone I could ping for repeated tasks as such. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:17, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

@Another Believer: absolutely, though I would need to file a WP:BRFA for such a task first --DannyS712 (talk) 18:19, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

DannyS712, Sure, makes sense. I know nothing about the bot approval process, or even how bots work, but I sure say to myself 'it'd be easier if a bot could do this' often. Would you like me to suggest something more formal for you to consider? Are these sorts of tasks helpful enough for the trouble? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:21, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

@Another Believer: if they help you, I don't mind. --DannyS712 (talk) 18:22, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

DannyS712, Great, is this talk page the best place to submit WikiProject-related requests, or do you have another location in mind? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:23, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

@Another Believer: my talk page would probably be easier, if its just a request for me, since this page is heavily watched --DannyS712 (talk) 18:24, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk)

Bear in mind WP:COSMETICBOT and WP:NOTBROKEN. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:21, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Redrose64, Yeah, Danny mentioned, which I find a bit disappointing. I see avoiding redirects as general cleanup and would even be in favor of eliminating template redirects if they can be systematically phased out and declared unnecessary. Seeing "Wikipedia Saves Public Art" in markup across thousands of talk pages suggests there's still a project by this name. Regardless, I appreciate your comment here, good to know. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:25, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Recommendations on WikiProject invitation templates

Hello! I would like to create an invitation template for WP:SOCIALISM. I went through a lot of different invitation templates to see examples. Is there any particular set of examples that you can recommend? Any advice on wording? Thank you! --MarioGom (talk) 08:12, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

MarioGom I don't know if there's a standard invitation template, but I recently did a similar thing (going through invitation templates to get inspiration). I ended up creating Template:Mammals invite, largely modeled after Template:Accounting task force Invite. If you enable Twinkle, you can add custom welcome templates to the standard set, making it really easy to invite users to a specific project (3 clicks). Enwebb (talk) 16:22, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

Enwebb Thanks! The wording in your template convinced me. So here's my shameless copy: Template:Socialism invite. --MarioGom (talk) 18:14, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

Geographical Barnstar needed?

Hello, I've created a Barnstar I refer to as the Underwater Barnstar. I really don't have a purpose for it, but I still put an unofficial description via "Barnstar awarded to editors who've promoted an article that's entirely based on a geographical body of water such as oceans, rivers, lakes, or waterfalls to Good Article status or higher." Any Wikiprojects that specifically deals with geography interested? — JudeccaXIII (talk) 03:31, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Instructions for closing successful proposal

Hi Folks, Recenlty a proposal to create Wikiproject climate change succeeded by way of an agreement to convert an inactive task force (under WikiProject Environment) into a stand alone WikiProject. Hooray! The old and (until recently) inactive task force, and all of its subpages, has been moved to WP:WikiProject Climate change.

Meanwhile, back at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals we still have two legacy pages

• The 2019 proposal that started all this (now hatted as historical)
• The 2019 proposal's talk page (which is still "live")

QUESTION and OBSERVATION The WikiProject Guide seems to omit a section on the nuts and bolts of closing a proposal. Question, does the hatted 2019 proposal hang out where it is? Does it get moved to a subpage of the project? Something else? Same question for the talk page, noting that the threads at the talk page might make the most sense (in a WP:MULTI sort of way) if the talk page were folded into the talk page at the former task force/current project talk page.

We need some wikignome/clerkish advice on keeping house from the project experts. Thanks! NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 10:40, 28 July 2019 (UTC)