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The “Dutch Republic” (The United Provinces of the Netherlands, officially the Republic of the Seven United Netherlands) is listed in the infobox as a “co-belligerent” for the United States alongside the Kingdom of Spain, whereas the Kingdom of France is listed in a different category alongside the Colonies (why is that, by the way?), but the second paragraph of the article begins with “During the war, American Patriot forces had the support of France and Spain, while the British and Loyalist forces hired Hessian soldiers from Germany for assistance.”
Why are only France and Spain listed there and not the Netherlands? It seems like they were just as involved as Spain was, and I think this is something people really need to be informed about, as it seems so little-known. Sorry for going off-topic, but I just heard a song earlier today referencing the French and Spanish helping the U.S. get independence, making no mention of the Dutch. It just seems like a really glaring omission, since they’re the only other country listed. 174.243.48.32 (talk) 03:19, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I see the article has been edited to list the Dutch Republic as “limited support” now, whatever that means. Also, France and Spain are listed together as the only “co-belligerents”, so France having a greater role than Spain is no longer implied. Does that seem right to you? The article doesn’t seem to reflect what I’ve read from other sources, like these:
The article as it stands now is largely a result of a small cabal of editors with a very narrow American focused point of view, which they have injected into the article. These editors asserted a viewpoint that nothing that happened outside of continental north america was part of the war, which is blatantly against what reliable sources say. The article itself accordingly blatantly violates NPOV. For example, listing France as a "co-belligerent" rather than a principal combatant is ridiculous. I have just changed the infobox to add France and Spain as principal belligerents and to add the Netherlands as a Co-belligerent. The French were directly allied with America and were heavily engaged in combat from the point of their entry in the war, until the end of it.XavierGreen (talk) 16:01, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Doesn't that give the impression that it was primarily a war between France and Britain rather than between Britain and its rebellious colonies? TFD (talk) 11:17, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Number of french troops during the war could be more accurate.
3500 French troops from Savannah siege are not counted: not a lot where from french line regiments (3000 where from french Carribeans colonies) so on the 3500 almost none will come back later in the war. On many sources it is said Rochambeau land with 5000 soldiers and not 6000. The French reinforcements from 1781 i can count like 2000 from what i can find, i don't know where this 4000 come from, i can't find realiable sources for now. So if someone know good source for the french reinforcements number from 1781 it will be then very accurate. Ettenrocal (talk) 01:38, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The infobox is not exhaustive per WP:INFOBOXPURPOSE. Please only include material therein that's key to the article. I would say Dutch participation is only arguably worthy of inclusion.
Please actually add items to lists, not slap on additional line-break separated entries. Thanks.
In the 2nd paragraph of the "Foreign Intervention" section, the last sentence states "Congress agreed to the treaty with reluctance..." What treaty are you referring to? Amardesich (talk) 20:12, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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